Hearthstone Legendary Crafting Guide (Standard) - United in Stormwind

By Stonekeep - September 15, 2021

Card Crafting Guides United in Stormwind

Determining which Legendary Hearthstone card to craft can be a tough decision for experienced and new players alike. If you craft a card and find it less useful than initially expected, the best you can get is one-fourth of your Arcane Dust back.

Our Hearthstone Legendary Crafting Guide will help ease the anxiety of burning 1600 dust on a single card. This guide will take you through a logical Crafting Strategy to ease the pain of Standard rotations and focus on those cards that are most likely to get the best value from your dust. For each Hearthstone Set, we provide the Best Cards to Craft and Good Cards to Craft to assist you through your next crafting conundrum.

Hearthstone Legendary Crafting Guide Table of Contents

Year of the Gryphon (2021) Sets
United in Stormwind Cards to Craft
Forged in the Barrens Cards to Craft
Year of the Phoenix (2020) Sets
Darkmoon Faire Cards to Craft
Scholomance Academy Cards to Craft
Ashes of Outland Cards to Craft

Please note that this guide is intended for Standard players. In Wild, Legendary cards have different power levels than in Standard due to additional synergies available in the format.

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Hearthstone Legendary Crafting Strategy

When choosing the next Legendary card to craft, you should consider both the strength and set of the cards you're considering. Typically, Neutral Legendaries fit into more decks and offer the best variety when crafted. As with all class cards, however, class-specific Legendaries tend to be stronger and offer additional synergy and/or class identity options.

Crafting Categories

The Best Cards to Craft are either Legendaries played in a variety of decks (mostly Neutral) or staples in a strong meta deck. Given their strength, they're very likely to continue seeing play before their rotation. Good Cards to Craft are Legendaries that are less popular and possibly not as strong, but also playable in the current meta. They are usually necessary (or at least very helpful) in a specific, less common or less powerful archetype. Some of them are more of a tech cards / Legendaries specific to this meta and might not see that much usage in the future, but they still have a higher chance of being playable later than your average Legendary.

In general, cards listed in the Best Cards to Craft for each set should be given priority over those in the Good Cards to Craft. Of course, it all depends on the decks you want to play, your favorite classes, and so on - you need to apply your own filter to the list too.

Card Sets

Previously, cards from the "evergreen" Classic set were the best crafts. Now that Core Set is free for everyone, new players will find it much easier to pick the cards they want to craft. Instead of having to get all the often boring, but staple Classic Legendaries, they can now focus on the latest expansions.

Right now, cards from the current year should be given priority. Sets remain in Standard for two years, so the current year sets have a longer lifespan than the sets from the previous year. The closer we get to rotation (it usually happens around April each year), the less I recommend crafting cards from last year. For example, if it's only 4 months until rotation, cards from the current year will remain available for a year and 4 months, while cards from the previous year will only be relevant for 4 months.

Year of the Gryphon (2021) Sets

The Year of the Gryphon consists of Forged in the Barrens (+Wailing Caverns Mini-Set), United in Stormwind (+unnannounced mini-set), as well as another expansion + mini-set combo we don't know yet. All of them will rotate out of the Standard format with the release of the first expansion of 2023 (around April).

United in Stormwind Best Cards to Craft

United in Stormwind is the latest set, so we had less time to judge the power level of those cards - keep that in mind!

The Demon Seed - So far Warlock's Questline is the best Legendary from United in Stormwind, no matter if you play Wild or Standard. Deck built around is is very strong - with a great mix of self-damage and healing, Warlock can survive while dropping big threats onto the board, and if that's not enough the build has an inevitability of killing the opponent with self-damage (including fatigue) after Questline is finished. However, at the same time, it's one of the Legendaries that are most likely to get nerfed looking at the current state of the game (even worse - it might not get nerfed directly, but all the related cards around it making it much worse).
Command the Elements - Shaman's Questline is very powerful against most of the meta - it actually only gets countered by the other two popular builds (Questline Mage & Warlock). However, it's still doing very well, because every other popular matchup is in the green. Not only it can defend itself against aggression, clear the board efficiently, but after the Questline is done, it either summons multiple big minions or burns the opponent with double spells (a simple Lightning Bolt turns into a Fireball and so on).
Darkbishop Benedictus - Benedictus is the main activator of "Shadow Priest" fantasy - if you want your Anduin to play dirty, it's a must-have card. While a 5 mana 5/6 is useless by itself and you're much better off not drawing it, you play him for the start of game effect. Turning your Hero Power into a better version of Hunter's Hero Power (or an upgraded Mage Hero Power) at no cost other than having to play only Shadow Priest turned out to be very strong and more successful than most players have anticipated. If you like Aggro decks, it's one of the best choices now.

United in Stormwind Good Cards to Craft

Sorcerer's Gambit - While the card is popular enough to be classified as "best" to craft, Questline Mage deck is actually low Tier 2 or even Tier 3 depending on who you ask. That's why it didn't feel right to put it alongside two Questlines mentioned above. But overall, it's one of the most common decks on the ladder - especially at lower ranks. It's pretty straightforward, fun to play and also very cheap. The plan is to cycle through the deck while freezing/clearing opponent's board and finishing to Questline, then burning them down to the ground with infinite damage from Ignite. Of course a must-craft if you want to play Questline Mage.
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Varian, King of Stormwind - Varian would probably be one of the best Legendaries in the game right now if the meta wasn't as fast as it is. In the right deck, the card brings insane value and a bunch of tempo too - not only you draw 3 cards, but you also play 7/7 with Rush, Divine Shield AND Taunt (in the best case scenario). Usually even hitting two of those keywords is enough to make it a much better version of Siamat. Right now it's mostly played in all kinds of Paladin builds, because they have the easiest access to Divine Shield and play a more Midrange strategy.
Cornelius Roame - One of the highest rated cards before the expansion was released - Cornelius is a card draw machine. It guarantees 2 cards (+a 4/5 body) for 6 mana, but if it survives, it goes way beyond that. As long as opponent doesn't kill him immediately, he will guarantee drawing you 6 cards in total - yep, that's a crazy number. The current meta is a bit too fast for him, but even now he sees play in some Paladin and Druid builds. And he has a serious chance of being even better in the future.
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Final Showdown - Demon Hunter's Questline is an interesting one. While many good players swear that a deck built around it is actually great, overall stats don't show it. Brute Demon Hunter is a very tricky build, which utilizes insane cycling capabilities to finish the Questline, play multiple 0 mana Irebound Brutes and then finish the opponent off with Lion's Frenzy. It's obviously a must-have in that deck, but I wouldn't recommend the deck to less experienced players.
Anetheron - Anetheron is a solid option in Giants (Hand) version of Questline Warlock. Since you draw a lot of cards and keep a full hand very often, Anetheron is often a 1 mana 8/6, which is obviously quite powerful. It's one of the first big minions you can drop on the board (as early as Turn 4), and a good addition to your Raise Dead pool once it dies. However, he's pretty low on the priority list, since you can easily play the deck without him - many lists have cut him in favor of other cards.
Highlord Fordragon - Highlord Fordragon is a solid choice in Handbuff Paladin deck - not a very popular meta option, but still a pretty solid one. Since the deck runs a lot of Divine Shields (Prismatic Jewel Kit depends on them + they work very well with Handbuffs in general), you can easily trigger Highlord's effect a couple of times, producing some really big minions. It's even better if the buff lands on something like Blademaster Samuro or Catacomb Guard, which benefit from those even more than your average minions. I know that it's a common trend, but if the meta slowed down a bit, I bet that Fordragon would be even better.
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Jace Darkweaver - And finally, a staple Fel Demon Hunter card. Interestingly enough, Fel Demon Hunter is relatively popular in high Legend (and in tournament setting), but it's nearly absent from lower ranks. The goal of the build is to play multiple Fel cards like Chaos Strike, Fury (Rank 1) (or even better Rank 2), Fel Barrage, Metamorphosis, and then repeat all of them with Jace. You also run Aldrachi Warblades + weapon buffs + Il'gynoth for some extra burst damage. Overall, the deck is pretty tricky to play, but it has a lot of burst potential and even OTK capabilities if you hit the right cards with discounts.

Forged in the Barrens Academy Best Cards to Craft

Tamsin Roame - Tamsin, while pretty useless in the early game and mediocre in the mid game, has some insane late game potential. Copying any Shadow spell you cast AND making it cost 0 is crazy powerful if you run at least a few of them in your deck. Some of the popular ones you can copy include Drain Soul, Touch of the Nathrezim, Mortal Coil or Unstable Shadow Blast. As you can see, her main purpose is getting more removal and healing - the latter comes really handy against decks that want to burn you down. You can often clear wide boards with Tamsin and only 2-3 single target removal spells, while healing/drawing lots of cards in the process.
Manrkik would be another "best to craft" card, but he's one of the free expansion Legendaries. If you didn't claim him from Barrens rewards track, all you need to do is buy a single Forged in the Barrens pack and go to the pack opening menu - he will be added to your collection. No need to spend Dust!

Forged in the Barrens Academy Good Cards to Craft

Blademaster Samuro - Blademaster Samuro is a board clear in a form of a minion. Although dealing 1 AoE damage is sometimes good enough by itself, most of the time you want to combine him with some buffs - like handbuffs in case of Paladin, or Apotheosis in case of Priest (the combo was very popular last expansion, when Control Priest was still commonly played) - the latter gains an extra advantage of healing you for all the damage you deal. If you run a deck with some buffs, the chances are that you will want to put Samuro in - just bringing him up to 3 attack is often good enough to get rid of bigger boards.
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Cariel Roame - Divine Shield + Rush is a great combo. Now if you add a mana discount on some cards in your hand... yeah, Cariel is a great pick in certain Paladin builds. If you run Holy spells you might want to discount, you probably also want to run Cariel. Right now she's most commonly seen in Handbuff Paladin, where she gets even more value after getting buffed (you can sometimes even run her into a Giant and kill it while leaving 8/7 minion behind). Simple, but effective. She will probably see more play in Paladin going forward too.
Barak Kodobane - Barak used to be a Face Hunter staple ever since Forged in the Barrens came out. Not only it draws 3 cards on a 3/5 body, for 5 mana, but it also draws 3 specific mana costs - 1, 2, and 3. On 1 and 2, Hunter has some really strong cards, including Aimed Shot for more burn, while on 3 you either have Mankrik's 3/7 that hits face (and draws you another card instead) or Aimed Shot, both of which are insane. Mankrik on 3 into Kodobane on 5 curve is usually game-winning, but even without Mankrik, Kodobane will give you 8-10 damage worth of burn spells, making him an excellent mid-late game play.
Kazakus, Golem Shaper - Bad news is that many decks simply can't put Kazakus in them, because they run some important 4 mana cost cards. Good news is that your deck is not one of those, you will likely boost your win rate by plugging in Kazakus. There are some builds that love him, including certain Rogue and Priest decks. While his initial stats are very weak, the power level of the Golems you create is quite insane and can seriously win you some games (e.g. 2x 5/5 with Divine Shield, 5/5 with Poisonous that deals 3 damage to two minions clearing them instantly or even something like a big 2x 10/10 with Stealth - but the last one is a bit too slow for the current climate). In any case, it's a good Legendary and it will most likely see a lot of play before it rotates out.
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Lady Anacondra - Lady Anacondra is a build-around card for a certain Druid deck. The truth is that a 2 mana discount on Nature spells is not really worth it by itself, given that you would have to play at least a few spells before her cost is even paid back. But there are some ways to make her work much, much better. The first one is Germination - which is a also a Nature spell, so gets cheaper. For 8 mana, you can get 3 copies of Anacondra, discounting all of your Nature spells by 6 while summoning a decent board. Now that's more interesting - free Nourishes, Arbor Ups and cheap Cenarion Wards seem pretty cool. The other way is by playing Celestial Alignment - if all of your cards are 1 mana, discounting Nature spells means that you are able to play a lot of them for free - combine it with Gadgetzan Auctioneer and you go through your entire deck while doing A LOT of powerful things. Overall the card is quite interesting and has some serious combo capabilities.
Mutanus the Devourer - Mutanus used to be present in most of the slower decks last expansion, because it's a great disruption tool. Not only you might be getting rid of your opponent's important card, but you also put a (usually big) body on the board. However, right now it's much less common simply because how fast the meta is and that playing a 7 mana card that deals with a single threat from your opponent's hand is not necessarily the best choice. The only highlight is that it can get rid of Questline rewards, but those are often played on the same turn they are finished. It's rarely seen right now, but there's a very, very high chance that it will come back in the future.

Year of the Phoenix (2020) Sets

The Year of the Phoenix consists of Ashes of Outland, Scholomance Academy and Madness at the Darkmoon Faire. All three sets will rotate out of the Standard format with the release of the first expansion of 2022.

Madness at the Darkmoon Faire Best Cards to Craft

There are currently no Darkmoon Faire Legendaries that I would consider "best" crafts.

Madness at the Darkmoon Faire Good Cards to Craft

Rinling's Rifle - Rinling's Rifle is a Hunter staple - the card simply does a lot for quite cheap. Hunter Secrets tend to be pretty strong, but they are also situational. For example, putting a Freezing Trap into your deck means that sure - you will be protected against a single big minion, but it will be useless against a swarm of smaller minions. Rinling's Rifle doesn't have this problem, because you can pick the one that fits current situation the most. With only six Hunter Secrets in Standard right now, you can pick the ones you want pretty consistently. You get two, and you also get a 2/2 weapon to deal some extra damage, clear off smaller minions etc. It's just a good card.
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Greybough - Greybough was previously more niche, but it has started seeing play lately thanks to the Aggro Taunt Druid strategy getting more popular (and actually viable). The current meta is very low on Silence and Transform effects, so you can usually trigger his effect a few times, making it a great long-term threat. What's even better is that thanks to the Oracle of Elune + Razormane Battleguard combo, you make it cost only 1 mana (so it also gets affected by Oracle's text) - which means that on Turn 6, dropping those three cards together, you create a massive board that is very, very hard to get rid of efficiently.
Moonfang - Moonfang is one of those cards that seem pretty underwhelming, but turn out to be strong in the right deck. It was Guardian Animals Druid last expansion, right now it's mostly Handbuff Paladin. In case of Paladin - each handbuff means it gets more health, which in turn means one extra attack it survives. And the thing is that most of the removals in the current meta are based on damage, not on straight-up destroying a minion. So Moonfang is often nigh impossible to clear, making him a great threat that will stick around for a while. Moonfang also sees some play in Face Hunter, although stats don't directly
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Il'gynoth - Il'gynoth builds were popular in high Legend before the card was nerfed (from 4 to 6 mana), then they've disappeared, but now they're actually coming back in the Brute Demon Hunter shell. Il'gynoth turns any Lifesteal into damage for the opponent, and as we all know, Demon Hunter has quite a lot of powerful Lifesteal effects. Mostly Felscream Blast, which when combined with some Spell Damage and/or Mo'arg Artificer can heal for A LOT = deal a lot of damage with Il'gynoth. Current combos rely on discounting pieces with Final Showdown Questline and they actually work pretty well - still mostly in high Legend, but if the decks takes off there's a chance that its popularity will trickle down to lower ranks too.

Scholomance Academy Best Cards to Craft

Instructor Fireheart - Fireheart was always a simple, but solid Legendary in Shaman. One of the best things about her is that she can simply be dropped on Turn 3 as some board presence + spell discovery, but can also be held into the late game for more impressive spell chains (depending on your luck, of course, but you can usually get at least 2-3 spells from her, up to 5-6+ in more extreme cases). However, right now her late game potential is even more powerful thanks to Command the Elements Questline. Since all of your spells are doubled after you finish the Questline, discovering a bunch of them becomes much more compelling. She can help you find more board presence, removals, burn damage, healing and basically whatever you might need at the moment. Or, in some cases, help you finish the Questline by Discovering some Overload spells.
Mindrender Illucia - Illucia is one of the most controversial cards in the game ever since she was released. Her ability to disrupt the opponent was always very powerful, and nearly always hated by the player on receiving end. However, while annoying in Control Priest, she's straight up broken in many situations when playing Shadow Priest. Unlike Control, as a Shadow you run out of cards very quickly. In some cases, you might end up topdecking mode as soon as Turn 4-5. Normally that's bad, but it's actually great for Illucia. If you tempo out in the early game and fill the board with your minions, you're asking to get yourself AoE'd. But if you drop Illucia after emptying your hand, you now give your opponent... nothing. You don't care much about cards in their hand - often you won't even "steal" anything. But you gain one free turn of dealing damage, which is often enough to just win the game. The only thing opponent can do is playing the topdecked card - which more than often is useless in their situation (Void Shard is the only exception, but depending on how big your board is, that's probably not going to save them).

Scholomance Academy Good Cards to Craft

Disciplinarian Gandling - While Illucia is played in nearly every single Shadow Priest build, Gandling is present in roughly half of them. There are two Shadow Priest strategies you can take - one of them is based around Gandling + cheap minions. You actually run 0 cost stuff like Murloc Tinyfin and Desk Imp + a lot of other 1 cost cards, in order to drop them together with Gandling. It's a massive tempo push - e.g. playing Gandling + two 0 mana minions creates a board of 3/6 + 2x 4/4 for just 4 mana. 6 health minion is also a bit difficult to remove in the current climate, so he works pretty well. However, unlike Illucia, you can still pick a build that doesn't run him, so he's not absolutely necessary.

Ashes of Outland Best Cards to Craft

There are currently no Ashes of Outland Legendaries that I would consider "best" crafts.

Ashes of Outland Good Cards to Craft

Murgur Murgurgle - Murgur Murgurgle is probably the most commonly played "Prime" minion ever since those were released back in Ashes of Outland. The first part - 2/1 with Divine Shield for 2 mana - is actually a decent 2-drop and even better if you run some Divine Shield synergies. But then you get a really, really powerful card shuffled into your deck - Murgurgle Prime is a massive board refill. And not just any board refill - it makes a VERY durable board given that all the Murlocs have Divine Shield. There's also a high chance that it will give you some immediate board impact (Crabrider, Redgill Razorjaw, Fishy Flyer). Opponents will have a hard time dealing with it, often wasting a few removals for just one of your cards - and if they can't, it usually produces enough power to kill them or at least severely damage them. Overall, it's present in most of the Aggro and Midrange Paladin builds.
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Kayn Sunfury - Kayn is interesting - whether its playable heavily depends on whether more aggressive Demon Hunter builds are playable. Not only it's a Charge minion, which are naturally good in Aggro decks, but it also lets all of your other minions circumvent Taunt minions. One of the best ways to stabilize against Aggro is shielding yourself with Taunt minions, and Kayn makes them useless for as long as he's on the board (often one turn is enough). However, right now Aggro Demon Hunter builds actually aren't very strong and he's mostly played in Brute Demon Hunter. His use case is similar, but instead of aggression, you want to prevent the opponent from Taunting up against your heavy hitters - Irebound Brute and Lion's Frenzy. Especially the latter, which is very vulnerable to being blocked by Taunts. But I imagine that he might still shine in some other builds before he rotates out of Standard.

239 Comments

Chicrala August 21, 2017
Mate, Reno is not from Mean Streets =)
1. Chicrala August 21, 2017
  Awesome guide by the way!
2. d4d1 August 21, 2017
  read the text clearly and you will find your error
  1. Evident August 21, 2017
    Yeah, I have to admit I thought it was an error when I first saw that too.
    Edit: I added a word so it would be more clear.
Thoras August 21, 2017
"Hold my Beer", ... crafting Actionmaster Beardo for Paladin :D
1. Roffle August 21, 2017
  I casted a Wild Tournament this past weekend in which one of the players successfully pulled off this combo. It was beautiful.
Advocaat August 21, 2017
I don't think Malfurion DK is a good craft. It's easily one of the worst hero cards. He's only played because druid is very strong right now. All druid decks are playable without him though. The card itself does almost nothing. It's not bad but definitely not mandatory.
1. adezero August 21, 2017
  malfurion is arguably one of the best DKs. it has nothing to do with druid popularity.
  1. Roffle August 21, 2017
    I agree. Flexibility is an important factor in card games and Malfurion provides that. Not to mention that it's already easier for Druids to play high-costs cards, but at 7 mana, Malfruion comes out much earlier than most other DKs.
  2. Advocaat August 22, 2017
    The hero power is almost a non factor because in most turns you don't have enough mana to play it. It's basically summon two scarabs/spiders for 7 mana which isn't rly that good... It's a solid card but all of druids' decks are perfectly playable without him right now.
    1. Moltar August 22, 2017
      Wat, constant fiery war axe or 3 armor is real good.
    2. EPOCH August 22, 2017
      Its best actually you are the only person arguing that its bad! Check comments and statistics!!!
      Lets see druid struggles against aggro decks most of all.
      and here we have 7 mana for 5 armor which helps a lot and 2 scarabs with taunt 2x 1/5 also great against aggro. And even if this is not enough you have value for hero power next turn:
      1. 2 mana for 3 attack is like fiery war axe which is good!
      2. 2 mana for 3 armor is also good , its upgraded version of warrior hero power.
      So just stop that useless demagogy and learn the game then talk!
      1. Advocaat August 22, 2017
        I don't think I have to "learn the game" since I hit legend almost every month for years... It's not like FWA. It's only 1 charge of FWA. Nobody would play a 4 mana Fiery War Axe. The card itself isn't bad, don't get me wrong. But it's not important to have to make those druid decks viable. It's just a solid card choice that can be easily replaced by another solid tech card. So no, definitely not worth crafting as much as presented.
noviceengineer8 August 21, 2017
How viable is Taunt Warrior right now? Doesn't look like a good craft if the deck is unplayable
1. Roffle August 21, 2017
  The Warrior quest was discussed when we were coming up with this guide. The card completely enables a deck archetype that is capable of being powerful. With the sea of Jade Druids right now, it is struggling, but should that die down and we see a return to aggressive strategies it could easily return to form.
Watership August 21, 2017
It's interesting to see you include 7 of the 9 DK legendaries in your list. What was your thoughts when excluding the other two (especially Valeera)?
P.S. Love the site, it just looks so clean. It's the only Hearthstone deck site I use.
1. Roffle August 21, 2017
  Unlike Quests, most DKs seems to be quite strong (initially at least). Some of the play rates may be skewed due to the recency of the expansion, but statistics seem to indicate most are at least worth consideration for crafting.
  As our list indicates, the exception is Valeera and Garrosh, both of which have a negative in deck and played win rate. Jaina also has a negative in deck win rate, but a positive played, likely due to decks being built around her. We'll monitor the relative power of all Death Knights (and KFT Legendaries), but it seems these two are having trouble finding a spot in competitive play.
2. alsozatch August 21, 2017
  imo garrosh death knight hero sucks. the hero power is barely passable.. by the time I play the hero I'd much rather have armor up. I see the hero power as a downgrade in most cases, so its hardly worth it for a 9 cost shadow mourne.
  1. alsozatch August 21, 2017
    and by that time your 4/3 weapon won't do much against the larger minions they will start to play like savannah highmane, tirion fordring, the lich king.
    I'n a deck where you want the new hero power, I'm sure you will already be running fiery war axes and blood razors, so shadowmourne is no where near enough of an upgrade for 9 mana. It's not hard to see why garrosh isnt used
  2. Advocaat August 22, 2017
    Honestly none of them hero cards is a safe craft at the moment. All DKs look well on paper but in reality they are just 'meh' ... The only DK that is worth crafting right now is priest.
    1. J.J. Robuniki August 22, 2017
      How is Malfurion "meh"?
      I can see why you'd call Gul'dan "meh", since he is 10 mana (but still amazing) but Malfurion is a 10/10.
      1. Advocaat August 22, 2017
        Malfurion is the most 'meh' in my opinion. I also play him but he's easily replacable in any deck.. only good because druid's good
    2. Olkov June 11, 2018
      Really? What about jeina and her lifesteal Elementals what about guldan who's resurrect all demons? What about malfirion who's give you 15(!) More health? What about lifesteal sword of paladin? What about eexxar who's give you nice late game? Haghatta? Or ragnaros fire Lord? Dude, in hero's there is power!
  3. jj ivanov September 3, 2017
    Yeah i got it from the free solo adventure, but i amin warrior and i was actually pretty happy of getting it... tempo warrior is cool and there's like 40 different enrage cards that the hero power supports. it isn't bad at all, warlock dk and valeera are worse
Toast Rider August 22, 2017
Would you say Finja is a required craft for murloc Paladin? I'm just short of having the resources to make the deck and I'm weighing between crafting him and Tirion.
1. Roffle August 22, 2017
  Finja is easily one of my favorite cards in the game right now and definitely good in the deck, but I wouldn't say he's necessary for the deck.
  Justsaiyan even had a list recently that opted to play without him.
  http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/justsaiyans-kft-midrange-murloc-paladin-druid-counter/
2. govid August 23, 2017
  I don't have Finja the Flying star nor Wickerflame Burnbristle. Which one should I craft for midrange paladin ? I have the Curator, Tirion, Tarim and the all murloc package. It seems like Finja is more important first.
PnutButtrSandwich August 22, 2017
Very helpful! I will also wait for the safe to dust Legendaries list.
SgtWingHead August 22, 2017
I hate Patches. Dusted mine, never felt better!
Can't stand how many decks it worms its way into, and where it has no place being.
BlueyesOwl August 23, 2017
Deathwing, Grommash, Greenskin, Jaraxxus, Cairne, warrior's quest, Kalimos, Elise, pyros, mage's quest, frost jaina, thrall, uther are near unplayable in both formats (only exception is Greenskin but isn't a must to craft for Pirates).
Same goes for N'Zoth, Ragnaros Lightlord, Y'Shaarj and Yogg-Saron.
Some of them above can only be crafted if you want to play specific deck(s) buuut...
To loose 1200 dust (if you dischant the return dust is just 400 !!! ) for e.g. Y'Shaarj is very optimistic. Only one deck use this legendary and it's tier3 (Big Priest, a very expensive deck).
FROZEN THRONE META has 4 tier1 decks and other 4 tier2 decks. So, probably it's safe to craft cards for those decks... Unless we are talking about cards that can be found anyware(and that must be a priority to any player) in some decks for e.g. Black knight is worthy indeed and is a must for almost any deck as an anti-taunt card.
Overall, I think this article will make many people regret if they going to follow this article's opinion about those legendaries. Especially if there are people that don't give a lot of money for this game (e.g. newbies, f2p players, etc).
1. Dragonlord Kolaghan August 24, 2017
  Please learn the game before talking about it. Great advice, roffle! Thanks
  1. BlueyesOwl August 24, 2017
    If that goes to me, I have no intention to prove anything.
    I will only say that I'm playing competitive (mean rank5 to legend every single season) this game since closed beta...
    Believe what you want to it's your matter.
    I just wrote my thoughts to the author's article...
    Cheers
Cellz August 23, 2017
Should I d/e my golden awaken the maker, golden hunter quest and golden thalnos?
I already have the normal ones and my current dust is around 3k++. Got a number of top decks already ie jade druid, token druid, murloc paladin, evolve shaman, miracle rogue, tempo warrior. I was thinking of crafting yshaarj for big priest or lyra and anduin dk for highlander priest.
1. Cellz August 23, 2017
  Was also thinking to craft black knight or deathwing bit dunno if its worth it or not
  1. MooPenguin32 August 24, 2017
    I've been thinking about crafting Black Knight myself. Last time I thought about it was when Old Gods was released. It fell out of favor. I wonder if the same will happen here. The last niche Legendary I crafted was Harrison Jones during Old Gods. I don't regret it, but I haven't really been playing it either. Hate for the same to happen with Black Knight.
    1. Roffle August 24, 2017
      Great point/reminder. This is the reason both Harrison Jones and The Black Knight were left out of the Best to Craft list. Both are great cards when the meta suits them but, like you said, fall in and out of favor quite often. It's easy to get caught up in the way things are at present, but when you're spending 1600 dust on a card, you want to get long term value out of your craft.
  2. Evident August 24, 2017
    I mean Black Knight is a decent craft right now but he isn't vital. Deathwing is very fringe for the most part, so that's more of how much you'd want him. It depends if you care about Golden cards honestly, I might not disenchant a golden Thalnos because he gets quite a bit of use. The other two might not see much play, so I'd consider disenchanting those.
Appleseed4k August 24, 2017
I remember getting the black knight as my first and second legendary (played back in tgt). I was kinda dissapointed that my I got a duplicate so soon but at least it wasn't an insta-dust like lorewalker or millhouse. Of course back then taunts weren't really that big so I almost never used him except for a random 7 legendary paladin deck (which I still regret making). Fast forward and he's actually seeing some play with all the lich kings running around.
EXtinct September 2, 2017
What should I craft with dust I got from golden millhouse manastorm? any suggestions
1. Evident September 2, 2017
  It really depends on what you have.
2. Jowser September 4, 2017
  Non-golden Millhouse Manastorm
3. BenjoM September 15, 2017
  I think that any DK (whichever class you prefer) is safe to craft. Almost every deck will include the DK.
Jarmizon September 11, 2017
great guide- i use it a lot!
but i think you should update it cause lately both Kazakus and Raza the Chained are much more competitive then they were before KFT.
and Archmage Antonidas doesn't find himself in secret mage, so its better to correct the link above
Blackthorn September 14, 2017
Should i throw away Finja ? I am guessing it's safe cause now with the nerf to warleader i don't think it will see significant play...the biggest value the card could bring into play was to draw the warleaders into the battlefield...It might not be a 100% disenchant but in my case by throwing him away i have the dust to make another legendary,so it's worth it imo..
1. Roffle September 14, 2017
  I'd wait and see how things are affected by the partch. The Warleader nerf is certainly substantial, but it's hard to predict how the meta will be affected by change.
  1. Blackthorn September 15, 2017
    I now rembered that I also have the Hunter DK which i might throw away because hunter is my least favorite class in HS..By d/e him I can make the Rogue DK because i main rogue and maybe craft Lich King...so that d/e is worth it,right?
    1. rotesfeuer September 15, 2017
      If you dust the Hunter DK, there is a chance that you can draw him again. I would keep him cause of the "new" legendary rule in packs that you wont draw doubles.
    2. BenjoM September 15, 2017
      I don't know if Rogue DK is worth it but if that's your main than craft it for sure. Lich King is a safe craft. Hunter DK is super fun to play but if you don't like that class and are strapped for dust then disenchant.
BenjoM September 15, 2017
Is it worth crafting Rogue and Warrior DKs? I feel like if I ever want to play either class I'll need the DK (except for pirate warrior which I detest).
1. rotesfeuer September 15, 2017
  Dude did you play the first mission from the Lichking adventure? The warrior Dk is for free...
  1. Evident September 15, 2017
    The DK you get for free is random.
    1. rotesfeuer September 18, 2017
      Really? I played on 3 accounts and I always got that damn Warrior DK Lol.
  2. BenjoM September 15, 2017
    Ya of course! I rolled a few from packs, got that random one from the first mission and crafted a few, but I still need Rogue and Warrior. I just can't decided if they're worth it or not.
MrMeme September 19, 2017
Are you guys sure about Quest Warrior?
1. Evident September 19, 2017
  I'd say the Warrior Quest was likely one of the more flimsier additions to the list. I'd wait and see how the nerfs play out before crafting it.
Zer0w September 26, 2017
Best Guide [ Helped me alot ]
Bellerophon September 28, 2017
You might add Keleseth to this list.
1. Evident October 1, 2017
  You're right, I just added it!
Giacomo Stefanelli September 28, 2017
I had in mind to craft three legendaries to complete the highlander priest. Those are Raza, Kazakus and in second stance Lyra. I'm wondering if are worth to craft considering I got other T1 decks and the highlander would be like a fun toy to play with.
1. Bellerophon September 30, 2017
  It probably depends on what you want. Kazakus will rotate out of standard early in 2018. That makes Raza weaker and I'm not sure if Anduin will find a spot in a tier 1/2 deck at that point. If you want fun, play razakus. If you're worried, keep the dust for the next expansion. I'd expect razakus to be viable in the next expansion, unless there is some crazy counter or more midrange decks show up.
  1. 98brae October 1, 2017
    Razza rotates too. the first expansion of 2018 takes Whispers, Karazan and Gagetzan.
RaesaL October 6, 2017
Is it too late to craft Fandral Staghelm and Aya Blackpaw ? only two left to craft Jade Druid deck, and also Evolve Shaman with DK and Jade sinergy. I will not craft any Frozen Throne cards while i'm still opening these packs, but April is just around the corner. Is Jade Druid good in Wild ? Thanks
1. LittleZbot October 9, 2017
  Jade Druid is still a Tier 1 deck in Standard, despite the nerfs. It's a pretty decent deck in Wild, too. If you want to play Jade, you will also NEED to craft Spreading Plague and Ultimate Infestion. Both cards make the deck much better than it was before. If you really want to be playing Jades, go ahead and craft Aya and Fandral - they're pretty much required in Jade Druid.
2. Roffle October 9, 2017
  Jade Druid dropped more dramatically in Wild after the nerfs, but is still decent in Wild. Aya is good in decks beyond Jade Druid, making her a strong craft if you have any interest in Wild.
  Really, only you can decide whether these cards are worth crafting. Both are powerful card, so it's a matter of determining whether six months of play is worth 1600 dust apiece (1200 if you DE Wild cards).
Xd October 12, 2017
Elise or prince 2 ?
İ have all other legendary cards and I can't craft both
1. Roffle October 12, 2017
  Prince Keleseth is currently the second most played Legendary card (behind Patches) and enables multiple decks. Elise is certainly good, but a little less commonly included at the moment.
  That said, it depends heavily on the type of decks you're interested in playing though. Prince works in Aggro/Tempo based decks while Elise favors slower, Control/Value decks.
D34THSTROK3 November 14, 2017
So I've been playing a Dragon mage deck for quite a while and i would like to know which is better to craft for the deck: Deathwing Dragon Lord or Alexstrasza?
1. Zenquility November 14, 2017
  Alexstrasza all the way. Deathwing is fun, but alexstrasza is too good to pass up in comparison
  1. D34THSTROK3 November 15, 2017
    Thx 'cause I thought maybe Deathwing would be good for the, summon all the dragons in your hand xD
Zenquility November 14, 2017
The three main decks i play are Raza highlander priest, jade druid, and DK midrange hunter. My hunter deck is complete, but my jade and raza decks are far from that. For raza i still need kazakus, and mabye lyra and velen. For jade i still need fandral and aya blackpaw. I currently have enough dust for 1 card, what one should i craft first?
1. D34THSTROK3 November 15, 2017
  I would most likely go for Velen, because his double hero power dmg could have you wipe out most of the enemy cards on the board and leave you with some mana to mess around with for that turn ,but that obviously means that you have to use Raza. I'm honestly not the most experienced player but thats what I would go for >.<
deepfear November 21, 2017
should i craft cairne for my tempo rogue deck or wait for new expansion ?? it is the only card which i dont have for tempo rogue atm.
1. Roffle November 22, 2017
  This close to a new expansion, I would recommend waiting until after Kobolds and Catacombs releases. There may be something from that set you want to craft and/or Tempo Rogue becomes less of a powerhouse. Either way, the deck is probably better with Cairne, but still functions without him.
MarmotMurloc November 22, 2017
Hey guys! I was wondering If you might have some advice for me. Recently I initiated my super stupid one classic pack at a time strategy (Cause who needs the value you find in arena! ) I pulled a golden Jaraxxus.
I think he as a really cool card and all, but since he's golden, I feel I should scrap him for something like Guldan, Bloodreaver who is much more competitively viable.
Do you think I should scrap Jaraxxus for Guldan? Or maybe I should craft something else? ( The main reason I suggest Guldan is because I have keleseth and patches and just need him for Zoolock)
If it helps, the only "good" legends I have are the warrior dk, the shaman dk, keleseth and the Kardazhan legends (all of which are good except morose I've heard)
In terms of bad degenerates, you name it I've got it! Hogger, Mukla, sergeant Sally, Mukla tyrant of vale, the list goes on!
1. MarmotMurloc November 22, 2017
  I must apologize for the autocorrect above.
  Degenerates = Legendaries
  And I think I fixed this one, but Antacids = Jaraxxus
  1. Tyro November 26, 2017
    I think you had it right with degenerates
    1. MarmotMurloc November 27, 2017
      Lol, maybe, especially some like prince keleseth or the death knights, those are the degenerates!
2. Evident November 22, 2017
  I would wait until the expansion hits and see what becomes viable then. Jaraxxus is a card that has seen play quite often, but lately hasn't found a real place in the Standard meta. Gul'dan is a really good card, but a lot of things can change with the new expansion. I would try to be patient, but I wouldn't blame you for going through with it!
Zarathustra December 1, 2017
I'm currently running a budget zoolock but it's not getting me past rank 15 atm. Luckily, I got Raza and Velen from some card packs (and they're currently my only viable legendaries). Given Kobolds is coming out soon, and things are looking good for Priest, should I go all in on a highlander deck (with Kazakus, Shadowreaper, and the rest), considering it would be a fair bit cheaper for me? Or, since a lot of things will be rotating out in April (including a lot of highlander options) should I pursue something else? I just don't find aggro fun and am looking for a more control-oriented deck to get me to rank 5.
1. Roffle December 1, 2017
  It's a tough call. Highlander Priest is definitely continuing to look strong after the expansion, but I tend to hesitate with crafting decisions this close to a new release. Unless you're in a hurry to try out the deck, it might be safer to wait for 8th. Or at least see the remainder of the set revealed early next week before making a decision.
  1. Zarathustra December 2, 2017
    I planned on waiting at least a few days after Kobolds comes out to craft anything anyway. Thanks!
Neimeth December 17, 2017
Will you update this to kobolds soon?
1. Roffle December 18, 2017
  We will, but we want to let things settle a bit more before making recommendations. Cards that look strong early sometimes taper off in popularity.
  1. ytk December 18, 2017
    When exactly can we expect the update?. Since i found your guide to be most comprehensive and reliable and hence, been waiting on my dust to craft something only after you update.
  2. ytk December 18, 2017
    When exactly can we expect the update?. Since i found your guide to be most comprehensive and reliable and hence, been waiting on my dust to craft something only after you update.
    P.S:
    Would be great if you update in this week :P
Thejokeyboy123 December 24, 2017
When will you update it man, been dying out here to craft something just waiting for you to update to KAC.
1. Evident December 24, 2017
  We should be updating this week, we've been working on the list!
  1. Thejokeyboy123 December 25, 2017
    Thanks!
Revenant December 27, 2017
The subheading in the article says that ‘Year of the Mammoth’ (2017 sets) will rotate out.
Isn’t it the ‘Year of the Kraken’ sets guys?
Old Gods / MSOG / Karazhan?
1. Evident December 27, 2017
  It says that Mammoth sets will rotate out in 2019 which is correct. Kraken sets will rotate out in 2018.
  1. Revenant December 28, 2017
    Damn I forgot what year it was, LOL.
    Thanks for clarifying.
    Love the work everyone does on this site. Keep it up
    1. Evident December 28, 2017
      No problem, glad you like the site!
Djeon36 December 28, 2017
Can you make a list of legendary to disenchant? I have so many legendary right now and I don't know what to get rid of?
1. Advocaat December 28, 2017
  Disenchanting legendaries isn't very good idea since the pack change...
2. Roffle December 28, 2017
  We have a list here and are currently updating it for the Kobolds and Catacombs expansion. A more current version should be available soon.
  http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/hearthstone-legendaries-can-safely-disenchant/
3. Klaus December 29, 2017
  I have a top 5 list for you:
  1. You
  2. Should
  3. Not
  4. Disenchant
  5. Legendaries
  *unless it's golden.
  1. bryan December 29, 2017
    Should I disenchant my golden baron geddon? Will it be useful anytime soon? I know it is used in some elemages
    1. werty December 29, 2017
      You can disenchant it if you want, just keep in mind that if you do, the next time you open a Classic pack Legendary it can be Baron Geddon again.
  2. Tacocat January 25, 2018
    Why shouldn't I disenchant my legendaries?
    I get the pack changes, like how you will not get duplicates, but I average at about 6 legendaries per expansion (being f2p), so I see no point in keeping a legendary to not get a duplicate
    And I quite frankly cannot see a purpose to keeping a card like Millhouse Manastorm because I cannot forsee it being used in competitive in the near future
Advocaat December 28, 2017
It's funny. Elise was considered safe to craft few months ago, now it's not. That practically means she never was safe to craft. It kinda says that any of these "safe to craft" cards are in danger of not being playable in just a few months :D ... very reliable crafts :D
1. Roffle December 28, 2017
  Elise isn't unplayable, there are just better options right now. Either way, the fact that we don't recommend crafting her right now doesn't mean she wasn't safe to craft months ago or won't come back in vogue in the future.
  Even if Elise is never again competitively viable, the amount of play she saw in the past means the dust spent to craft her wasn't necessarily wasted.
  1. Advocaat December 28, 2017
    If a card is only good for 4 months I don’t find it safe at all. To me it’s the exact opposite. It’s the perfect example of 1600 dust wasted.
    1. CoryintheHouse December 29, 2017
      it's not a waste when it's she's still perfectly playable, the list isn't a guarantee that it's gonna be a mainstay in the future meta, but that the card is still effective and able to fit in top teir decks. The pack still has pretty good synergy with Shadowreaper Anduin per se, giving you more hero powers as you reach the end of your resources. She still gives good value with a decent body even if other considerations means she's not as popular as she was before making her a relatively safe craft.
    2. werty December 29, 2017
      What do you expexct? There's no way of absolutely knowing whether a card is going to be played 4 months from now on, or not.
      But these are the cards that are 99% safe:
      Classic:
      Bloodmage, Leeroy, Edwin, Tirion. These cards will pretty much always be good and always be put in decks.
      Velen - NOT. In 4 months Raza and Kazakus rotate out. I suspect after that Velen will go back to being unused just like before Frozen Throne. And I really don't think they should've put him on the list. It's a very unsafe craft.
      Un'Goro:
      Lyra and Tarim. Very powerful cards almost guaranteed to always be put in decks as for long as they are in Standard, especially Tarim, definitely a safe craft.
      Frozen Throne:
      Lich King, Tarim, Gul'dan DK.
      Malfurion DK - about 70-80% safe. Even though it's a really powerful card, Jades have lost a lot of steam compared to the previous meta and will be rotating out soon. We don't know whether there will be a new strong enough Druid deck to include this card in the next meta.
      Anduin DK - same deal. Kazakus and Raza are leaving soon and with that this card will be a lot less good. Might still be included in future iterations of Big Priest or some new Priest deck, but not 99% certain.
      Kobolds:
      Aluneth and Skull of Man'ari. These cards will just keep getting better with every new expansion.
      Everything else on that list though, I would stay away from.
      1. Advocaat December 30, 2017
        Exactly, you can never know how meta is going to shape. That's why there are only very few really safe cards in my opinion (maybe like four or five).
        One thing to realize is that cards are either safe to craft or they are unsafe. That's just a basic logic. If a card is safe to craft, how can it be unsafe 4 months later? That completely devaluate the fact it was safe in the first place.
        We probably have to define what safe means. I used to see 'safe' cards as cards that I can craft and never regret it. But according to this post 'safe' means 'currently popular'...
    3. saltman December 31, 2017
      4 months ago, something is playable, when a new expansion comes out, you never know what will be playable and what won't be. look at umbra, shes beeing played and no one thought it was good
      1. Yerf January 3, 2018
        I think the people complaining about "safe" would also have to think of the fact that safe does not mean guarantee. If you want guarantee, then there is none for standard. Anything can be hall of famed, meta changes and cards become not as good (or something new just came out that outclasses it). So by that logic, this list should not exist.
        You say there are 4 cards in your mind that is considered safe, then that would have to be part of the classic set, and thats assuming they will never get hall of famed. And even one that everyone would agree is safe Tirion isn't even being played in Paladin because its for aggro.
        Think of this list as, current good legendaries that are played in the current meta.
    4. Advocaat January 3, 2018
      When a card is going to Hall of Fame you will get full refund so it's safe in that case. And yes, I agree that list should not exist because it's misleading.
      1. Huracane April 4, 2018
        Advocaat, the way you're looking at it, no cards are safe. Which is a fair assessment since we never know what the future holds. Even something like thalnos could, theoretically, be power creeped in the next set. I would say this list gives a good analysis of currently playable cards, but I would never worry about dust months and mo the down the line. Make a good deck, get legend, and have no regrets.
spectratr December 29, 2017
what about epics ? will u share a guide about epics ? please its important too as legendaries .
JimGritz December 29, 2017
Alanna is listed as probably safe to disenchant. Roffle, do you disagree?
Dedsec April 14, 2018
When exactly can we expect the update?. Since i found your guide to be most comprehensive and reliable and hence, been waiting on my dust to craft something only after you update.
1. Nope April 23, 2018
  Baku will undoubtably be at the top of the list. Personally I am not a fan of voodoo doll, though I understand many players are excited for it. And if you ever play tribal in the next season, you will want nightmare amalgam. I'm on the fence for shudderwock. I understand it's a strong card, but shaman just lost many of its best cards. Shudderwock may be a better card in the future, but I'd prefer to craft it if and only if it's going to be nerfed and refunded.
2. ytk April 23, 2018
  lol you stole my comment from the previous expansion :P
  1. Dedsec April 24, 2018
    Yeah :P , sorry i was too lazy to write :D
3. Evident April 23, 2018
  Hopefully this week, we wanted to wait for the meta to settle before making too many predictions.
  1. Dedsec April 24, 2018
    Ok, thank u :D
4. Stonekeep April 25, 2018
  Sorry for the late reply. We wanted to give meta ~2 weeks to settle down a bit. Legendary crafting guide should be updated tomorrow, and the Epic one on Friday :)
  1. ytk April 26, 2018
    So when will it be updated. Tell me hours if you could?
    1. Stonekeep April 27, 2018
      I finished it yesterday, but we've been busy with the Monster Hunt coverage. It's now updated!
      1. Dedsec April 27, 2018
        Thank`s for the update man!
Michael Schmitz April 27, 2018
"The Glass Knight – The Glass Knight is a good card to put into your Even Paladin deck – it’s a 4-drop, the 4/3 with Divine Shield is pretty hard to kill already, and you even have some ways to refill his shield (Truesilver Champion, Vicious Scalehide)."
His shield? HIS shield!? You haven't figured out who this card is yet?
You might want to go into your card collection and right click on The Glass Knight. Read the flavor description. And as long as you've got a larger view of the card art available, take a closer look. Does that green visor on a red suit of armor not look familiar?
Then, play the card during a game. Pay close attention to the music that plays whenever you play the card or refresh the Suit of Armor's Varrier, er, I mean Barrier.
Seriously? How did you NOT notice they put Samus Aran in this game!?
1. Stonekeep April 28, 2018
  To be completely honest, I never read the card flavor texts and never liked Metroid series that much, so I probably wouldn't draw any connection even if I read it. I was more of a Contra (and Castlevania) guy.
Advocaat April 29, 2018
Honestly, I wouldn't consider Tirion safe to craft anymore. He hasn't been relevant for like a year now. He seen much less play than Antonidas who is put into "good to craft" category.
1. Stonekeep April 29, 2018
  You might be right that I could put him into Good instead of Best, but he's played in one of the best (and most popular) Even Paladin builds right now.
  Plus he's definitely more popular than Antonidas. Proof: https://i.imgur.com/oVuAmP8.png
  The only deck Antonidas was relevant in the last year was Quest Mage, and it was always a Tier 3/4 deck.
  1. Advocaat April 30, 2018
    Who plays Tirion in even paladin? Haven't seen him once.
    1. Wes4o May 1, 2018
      LoL I play Tirion and just to let you know on a little secret, not everyone plays the same meta shi* all the time. ^_^
      1. Advocaat May 2, 2018
        With this philosophy every card is safe to craft, dude... :/ ... this article is obviously about meta shit
    2. Stonekeep May 5, 2018
      Sorry for the late reply, I've been busy in the last few days.
      There are LOTS of ways to build Even Paladin. And I'm not arguing whether Tirion is the best one or not (it's still hard to say - played decks with and without him and both were good), but if you look at HSReplay, he's played in many decks. The best build hasn't been found yet, but Tirion really might be in it.
      If you sort by popularity, he's in the #1 most popular Even Paladin build in The Witchwood. If you sort by the win rate, he's in most of the highest win rate builds across all ranks: https://i.imgur.com/wBVu27K.jpg
      So no, it's not the case of "I randomly put him into the list because some player played him in Even Paladin".
      Generally, he's a GREAT fit into Even Paladin, and the only thing that's keeping him behind right now is the amount of Silence cards in the meta. You'd rather get your Lich King silenced, because he got one card anyway + he's leaving an 8/8 body instead of a 6/6.
LuKe_AA May 20, 2018
Even Al'Akir > Tirion right now;
I guess that can be saved for after the nefs, to see if Even Shaman will get even more popular; right now, tho, it's a decent thing against both Druid and Paladins.
dps_kane June 6, 2018
Thanks for the update, Stonekeep, much appreciated!
I personally do not agree with various of your recommendations, but I am also a rather casual player. Nonetheless I am not sure I would claim certain crafts to be "safe" crafts.... If you like a good discussion, here we go :)
# Classic set: basically agree with all that's written there.
# WW: Godfrey dethroned, Shaman all up there? Shudderwock might be popular and powerful, but I would not recommend to craft him, because the only deck in which he shines is *that one deck*. Which needs a multitude of other cards. And once the next expansion hits, if the meta speeds up again, this card might not see play anymore *at all*. I agree that the 'wock is insanely powerful, but I cannot recommend anyone to craft it unless they have most of the combo pieces and are fine that this card, plus various combo pieces, might become completely obsolete in the nigh future.... Lord Godfrey, on the other hand, is still a thing. It's powerful in any slow Warlock deck now and it will be a powerhouse in any slow warlock deck to come. It's a powerhouse in wild, too. It might be that warlock won't come back to the top, but Godfrey quite surely stays viable for the next 2 HS years and beyond in wild. Hagatha is probably a good recommendation.
# Un’Goro: not much to add here. The warrior quest will probably stay viable for a longer time to come. I see Lyra as a good card to craft, but that’s quite a biased opinion :D
# KFT: Here I am not sure how good of an advice it is to craft Keleseth. I have this feeling that nowadays it sees no play but in Shudderwock, which, as explained above, could easily be pushed out of the meta with the next expansion (or if some nerf-bat comes around – which is rather unlikely, though).
The hunter DK currently sees its prime time, and while I am not sure whether it’s a great advice to craft it considering the longer run, it for sure is one of the most fun DK around :D So I personally would probably not have put it up in the list if I were the author, but I have to confess that it deserves to be there (which proves that I would not be suited to write this report :D)
# K&C: this is the 2nd expansion next to WW where I do have some objections. I would like to challenge all 3 best class legendaries: Grumble only works with Shudderwock. As explained above, this deck is easily affected by any meta-shift which makes many Shudderwock key legendaries more or less dead cards in your collection. I cannot agree with this choice, or if, then I would put here (also next to Shudderwock) a warning that these cards are not top tier stand alone and hence one should craft all cards needed for the combo deck and be willing to live with the fact that many of the cards might turn out to be dead cards. Hagatha can be played elsewhere, Zola has room in other decks if something happens to Shudderwock, even Keleseth - but Grumble …. not that I know of.
Rhok’delar: similarly this card has a place in exactly one meta deck, which, if the meta shifts the wrong way, can completely drop out of favor. As the guide is geared towards those players that need to keep an eye on their dust, I would not really recommend this card in the “best” section, regardless of how good spell hunter is doing on the ladder. Maybe my favorite pick among these 3, though, for 2 reasons: a) it’s insanely powerful in a spell hunter deck, b) as DK Rexxar is really a good craft advise, this card does partner up really well with the other, and very few expensive other cards are needed to complete a very well-functioning deck (to my side being one of them).
Kathrena has seen plenty of play earlier, but without Barnes and a possible lack of support cards she might not do well in the future. Nonetheless I would honestly not put any of the three on the same pedestal as other best class cards to craft… especially if one compares them to some of the best WW cards (Hagatha, Godfrey, even Shudderwock outside of its combo deck), which at least will see a high viability for 22 more months or if one compares them to the power level that other mammut legendaries have. Or, one might want to mention that while these are maybe the best legendaries to craft in K&C, one should consider spending that dust instead on epics if one misses some key cards.
It’s just looking like all the recommended best class legendaries seem to be the same level, on which I disagree. I rather craft a Jaina (good chance to see play again with the next expansion), Godfrey (good chance to see plenty of play for many years to come in both play modes), ... than a Grumble (good chance to stop seeing play with the next expansion or the one after that).
My 2cents. Please be aware that this is my personal opinion, anybody is very much welcome to critize my arguments and join the discussion. I love this page and I do consult it regularly for crafting decisions :)
1. Stonekeep June 6, 2018
  I understand your point, and thanks for the extensive comment to illustrate that. On the one hand, I agree with you, but on the other, you need to understand something.
  The thing is, previously I've tried to put Legendaries that "might see play in the future", ones with lots of potential, higher than those who are clearly played only because X decks is doing good right now. And I've got a lot of criticism for doing that - I've got a lot of messages saying that "X is not a great craft, it doesn't even see that much play right now, the deck it's played in is not even that good" etc.
  And there is a point to that. It's impossible to reliably predict the future meta. Even a few balance changes have completely messed it up. For example, recommending Frost Lich Jaina in the "best" category because of her potential while in reality she might see zero play next expansion (because it might happen).
  That's why this time around I've decided to recommend the best Legendaries IN THE CURRENT META and put the ones with future potential into "good crafts". Is it a better approach? Maybe yes, maybe not. But it's definitely the safest approach, because you clearly have stats to back up the best Legendaries in CURRENT meta. And you have no clue which ones will be good or bad in the future, you can only make educated guesses (and given that I have zero insight in what Blizzard is planning to release or nerf, it's almost impossible to make those)
  Also, if we agree with your approach, I think that Shudderwock definitely deserves a spot in the best crafts. The card has insane potential and it's not only that combo deck. It's amazing in any deck running a bunch of Battlecries, not necessarily this specific combo deck. It was shown nicely by the Elemental version of the deck that didn't even run Lifedrinker. We just need one or two strongest Battlecries that are great to replay with it and it can actually serve as not necessarily a finisher, but a great value/tempo tool in that kind of deck. Same for Spell Hunter, I believe that this deck will only get better as the year goes by, unless Blizzard decides to completely drop the idea and not print any good Hunter spells... but those are the things you just can't predict.
  I also disagree with your assessment of Keleseth. The card sees play in more than Shudderwock. It's just that the meta currently has slowed down and there are less high tempo decks that would want to play it, but it doesn't mean that he's bad. Recruit Hunter, Zoo Warlock, Spiteful Druid (which is better than a lot of people think, but nearly no one plays it, because people have dusted their Spiteful Summoners, lol). Keleseth has seen play in every expansion since it was printed, so I don't know what makes you think that it won't see play in the future expansions.
  Sometimes even the most unexpected Legendaries become meta, while the best ones fall from the top after just a single expansion.
  P.S. I kind of agree with Grumble recommendation as the best craft. Because you're right, this card is not a great standalone card, at least it does not appear to be.
  1. dps_kane June 6, 2018
    Hey Stonekeep, many thanks for the elaborate response!
    First.... I understand your point about what's good for the current meta. I mean ... I do not like it and I disagree with that kind of approach, but I understand why you made that shift (I recall that just before WW there existed no spell hunter meta, nonetheless you had to defend yourself in the comments why you thought (correctly, now in hindsight, but also back then - IMHO, now and back then) that "To My Side!" is a good craft. It's painful. But you see, back then it was not possible to predict the meta precisely, nonetheless you used the information at hand to predict based on a card's potential - as you said, you made an educated guess. And even without the hindsight, I was actually agreeing with your argument back then. So I personally like educated guesses, because some cards simply have huge potential, while others are too dependent on others. Example: Raza & Anduin and all the highlander support cards were ranked in various articles as top cards to craft. There was a nerf on Raza, which dropped at the same time Anduin significantly in value. If it would have been the other way round (e.g. if they remove the “refresh hero power after casting something” from Anduin), then Raza would have been quite a bad craft. That’s what I think about almost any card part of the shudderwock package. If there is a massive nerf on Shudderwock, Grumble will be forgotten, Sandbinder will be forgotten and many other cards. Godfrey, though? As it does not combo with other cards but is a strong standalone, one would have to assume that the only support warlock will get in the future is something board centric. Which is really not likely, and even if – this card still rocks in wild. And about Jaina… well, this is a powerhouse by itself. True, so far (strongly) suggesting to craft her would – in hindsight! – have been wrong, but it was always a good advice to craft it, purely for its power. Garrosh gets advertised on your page as a good card since … I guess since KFT. AFAIK it hasn’t seen much play, but it is a powerhouse by itself and IMO it was always a good advice of yours to craft this card. It needs only very little support to start shining.
    I do understand, though, why you made the shift. You’d have to argue with many people, write a lot of text (just as you have to do with me now – sorry for that :D) …. that can be annoying, costs time …. so – I feel you, man :D
    Second, you make very good points about choices I critized and I agree with many of them – so thanks for the eye opener. E.g., Shudderwock. It is indeed a great standalone card and there are many ways of getting a neat combo off – even if Grumble gets nerfed. And if Shudderwock gets nerfed – well, dust back (well… he already got nerfed and there was no dust back, but it was a minor nerf…). So I agree, it indeed belongs up there. Maybe more so than Hagatha. Not sure. But I would not have removed Godfrey. My opinion. But yeah, what I said earlier is not justified, it’s difficult to nerf Shudderwock without nerfing Shudderwock himself. Hagatha might see less play, though, without proper support. Not sure :D
    I am not sure about spell hunter. I also believe that we will see more of it, but I am also confident that they’ll keep an eye on what they release with the next expansion to not have it totally outclass the rest. But in general I might change my mind, this is an interesting and powerful archetype.
    I like your point about Keleseth. You convinced me. It was underestimated initially yet it seems to celebrate one comeback after the other. I honestly have not seen it used in an opponent’s deck since the nerf, so while spiteful druid might be good, yeah, the deck does not appear. Did meet one zoo warlock which ran 2 drops, though. And no recruit hunter. That’s why I assessed it that way, but it is indeed a card that most likely will always find a place somewhere, especially since it’s neutral. So you totally turned me around there :D
    Thanks for the feedback, thanks for the good job of updating this list regularly!
    Kane
CD001 June 6, 2018
King Krush - a legendary I packed 3 times (before the patch that prevented you getting duplicate legendaries) finally has a home :D ... now I just have to consider crafting Kathrena *sigh*
JoyDivision June 7, 2018
A change log would be a wonderful thing for such 'long term updated posts'.
Otherwise, thanks for the update. ;)
Ab00000 June 7, 2018
Disenchant guide?
Bill & Jill June 10, 2018
I wouldn't put Shudderwock into the best craft category under Witchwood expansion. At most it's a good craft. Combo Shudderwock shaman don't guarantee you the win after you pulled all your combo pieces. I'm viewing it as a player of that deck myself and it's pretty much game over if your Grumble or Zola triggers BEFORE Saronite Chain Gang. And yes, the rate at that happening to me is alarmingly high. I had to win some late games with spells from Hagatha like Windfury or direct face damage spells..
But of course there could be decks in the future which uses Shudderwock as simply a value play instead of the Grumble-Saronite combo. But for 9 mana, you'd want some really strong battlecrys.
Just my 2 cents if anyone here is considering crafting Shudderwock.
1. jason June 11, 2018
  MY JAWS THAT BIGHT MY CLAWS THAT CATCH
2. Rainheart June 17, 2018
  Shaman's not my main. I got him. I dusted him. And I got him again... I must be damned.
3. dps_kane July 5, 2018
  I don't have shudderwock, but while it's powerful, it's not much more powerful than a variety of other deck archetypes out there (big mage, taunt druid, ...). Battlecries can be nuts, so I think that Shudderwock deserves a spot here nonetheless, and if only because it will most likely grow in power with the next expansions. I am not sure about Hagatha anymore. She does not convince me anymore. Great in the Shudderwock deck, but elsewhere? ...
  And I really miss Godfrey up there. I agree, he doesn't see much play now, but that is a very safe craft. It's already one of the most powerful class cards in wild.
CyberZubat June 18, 2018
What about the Rogue DK ?
1. dps_kane July 5, 2018
  only played in kingsbane rogue, which is a low tier deck right now, both in wild and standard. It's not even a good craft. It has good potential to come back, but that's hard to anticipate - a lot of cards have potential to celebrate an amazing comeback
Ytk August 14, 2018
So when Is boomsday update expected?
Dedsec August 16, 2018
Waiting for your boomsday update.
juanpa165 August 22, 2018
should create to rexxar even soon rotate
CD001 August 29, 2018
Whizbang *is* a pretty terrible card from a ladder standpoint ... but I had to craft the Golden version; it's the only way I'll ever get to experience a full-golden deck! :D
1. Stonekeep August 29, 2018
  It's a very interesting case, because it's one of the worst and best crafts at the same time. It's amazing if you're on budget / a new player that wants to experience a variety of decks, but it's obviously bad from competitive point of view.
  Still decided to put him up there in the best crafts, just with a disclaimer that he's not suited for competitive play (but I'd say that anyone playing competitively knows that already) :)
  1. CB September 1, 2018
    I crafted a golden Whizbang on my alt free account. Even though I have spent probably almost 1k in HS since beta, I never really get to play every meta deck that I wanted to try because there are always deck defining cards missing since HS can be so card stingy. This way was at least one way I could experience some decks I didn't have enough dust to craft and I am assuming that the Whizbang decks will update with each new expansion as recipes evolve too.
  2. Tarquinius September 3, 2018
    Great read thanks! I just crafted Whizbang myself a few days back after pretty much completing all the other decks I want to play this expansion, and I don't regret it at all. A really fun new way to play the game. I exclusively play him in casual matches, but when I want to unwind after some intense laddering it's just perfect :)
    1. Colin September 5, 2018
      I crafted a golden Whizbang as well, and it was well worth it.
2. Klausdieter August 31, 2018
  I did the same and crafted a golden Shizbang. Using it only on Wild or Non-Ladder Matches while I am on road playing on mobile. The cards where "just" golden, but it looks damn good. Some decks, not all, are "viable" / playable on lower Ranks
3. Merd September 4, 2018
  same here :)
KaihatsuJai September 3, 2018
All of these are very good recommendations. I'm also happy that the safe to dust list was scrapped.
BUT
Edwin VanCleef is NOT a must-craft! You DO NOT NEED it for odd rogue. Not everyone plays it, and there are good tech cards like Blood Knight, Void Ripper and even Death Speaker that slide in well.
Gnochi September 4, 2018
awesome guide! thank you very much <3
Colin September 5, 2018
This was a good guide and I agree with a lot of the answers. However I really think Tarim Sunkeeper is one of the best cards in all of Hearthstone and is definitely safe if you like to play Paladin at all. Other cards that I would say are definitely safe are Electra Stormsurge and The Soularium.
1. Colin September 5, 2018
  also Lord Godfrey is a staple for Warlock
  1. Bob September 14, 2018
    yes I always run Godfrey in my Zoo deck
    1. TrungNguyen October 4, 2018
      Godfrey in zoo???
      1. Artur October 5, 2018
        xD ahhaha
        "you know i like to clear boards doesnt matter if its mine!"
Evident December 17, 2018
Comments under this are from the previous update.
1. yrkomm16 December 17, 2018
  WHat about Glass Knight?
  1. Stonekeep December 17, 2018
    It's only played in a single, not very popular meta deck* (Even Paladin), and it's not even required there - multiple builds don't run it, meaning that it's not a must-have card. I definitely wouldn't craft it right now unless you absolutely want to play a specific, Glass Knight build and you have lots of spare Dust.
    *Even Paladin is a pretty strong deck in my opinion, but it doesn't change the fact that it's severely underplayed, with less than 0.7% play rate on the ladder (according to the latest Vicious Syndicate's Data Reaper Report).
Kversta December 17, 2018
,,All three sets will rotate out of the Standard format with the release of the first expansion in 2019"
All of them? But they were released differently; not simultaneously. How they can remove them in the same time?
1. Abel December 17, 2018
  This is the rule for understanding rotation. Let's say that the first expansion of year XXXX is released. Then all the expansion that were released in the year XXXX - 2 are rotated out. It does not matter if a expansion was released at the end of year. That is the reason why expansion like Kobolds and Catacombs (the last expansion released for the year of the Mammut) are in standard less time than previous expansions of the same year (Journey to Un'Goro and Knights of the Frozen Throne).
  1. Zombie69 December 17, 2018
    And that's also why they typically make the last expansion of the year to be stronger, to compensate for it sticking around for a shorter duration.
    1. Kversta December 18, 2018
      It changes a lot then. Thank you!
Zombie69 December 17, 2018
Just a small nitpick: in the Kathrena section, you mentioned 3/15 Witchwood Grizzlies, but they're actually 3/12.
1. Stonekeep December 17, 2018
  Thank you, fixed it!
JoeBar December 17, 2018
I woudn't recommend to craft cards that will disappear from Standard in 5 monthes ...
1. Stonekeep December 17, 2018
  There are multiple warnings about that in the article.
  I can't just say "don't craft cards from 2017 expansions", when there are stuff like Deathstalker Rexxar, Prince Keleseth or Sunkeeper Tarim in there. You really need some of those to make certain decks successful. They ARE still good crafts, just will be relevant for only ~3.5 months in Standard.
  You always have to keep in mind that cards from the previous Standard year have a much shorter shelf life and take that into account, but if you're not a F2P player on a very tight budget, getting them is not a bad idea lots of times.
  1. Skoopy December 18, 2018
    Can you explain what will happen to those cards which are rotating out.
    I only play since Witchwood.
    Can i decide keeping them for wild?
    And how much dust i will get out of them, if decide not to keep them? Will i get 100% (i mean full cost to craft it) or do i get 50% (like you normally get)?
    1. JoeBar December 18, 2018
      When they rotate out, they are only playable in Wild.
      You can disanchent them for 25% of their cost (400 dust refunded for 1600 to craft).
    2. Stonekeep December 18, 2018
      When cards rotate out of Standard, you still own them, but they can only be played in Wild. They're still in your collection, just like they are right now, so you can decide to do with them whatever you want.
      You can just keep them to play in Wild - I would generally recommend doing that unless you're sure that you will never play Wild. Alternatively, you can Dust them at the normal rate, which is 12.5% for Commons (5 from 40), 20% for Rares (20 from 100), 25% for Epics (100 from 400) and 25% for Legendaries (400 from 1600). That's for regular cards, Golden have a higher rate.
      There are rare exceptions - sometimes when they rotate out a Classic card (Classic is a set that was meant to be in Standard forever) to "Hall of Fame" (basically a set that consists of Wild-only Classic cards), then we BOTH get a full refund and get to keep the card. But so far there are only 13 cards in Hall of Fame, so you can't count on a lot of extra Dust (e.g. last rotation Ice Block and Coldlight Oracle rotated out).
Nerose December 18, 2018
I love the day this post comes out! I wait until then to craft anything. Thank you, Evident, for your hard work.
1. Dark December 19, 2018
  Stonekeep is the MVP here though
anggadaz December 19, 2018
Why Whizbang is worth to craft?
1. JoyDivision December 19, 2018
  '... It lets you experience 18 different decks, some of which are actually quite viable. And it’s not limited to Boomsday Project – when the recipes get updated after a new expansion launches, you will get to play with all of the new builds. All of that for 1600 Arcane Dust.'
Bell December 19, 2018
You should modify this article now. Kingsbane and Valeera the Hollow probably dead now. Maybe Malfurion the Pestilent, too.
1. Stonekeep December 19, 2018
  Well yeah, I could not possibly happen to know that they will go with such a quick nerf patch. 2 weeks after the release is unprecedented. My work on this update is basically thrown to the garbage and I will have to do it again when the new meta settles down.
  I'm glad that I didn't update the Epic guide yet, because I've meant to do it tomorrow, lol.
  1. yrkomm16 December 19, 2018
    I have a question - what font did you use for infographics>
  2. Bell December 20, 2018
    Poor guy. Anyway, keep up the good work. Your page is the best.
Bill Gates December 19, 2018
Love these guides! Can't wait for the epic guide. Best Hearthstone site by far! Keep up the stellar work!
Evident December 20, 2018
I've added some notes to the cards that might have been hurt due to the nerfs. We'll be re-evaluating this list once the nerfs have had sometime to settle into the meta.
Stonekeep January 15, 2019
Legendary Crafting Guide was just updated for the Rastakhan Post-Nerf Meta. Comments below this one were made for one of the previous versions.
1. Dave January 15, 2019
  Nice work, could you also put there wild crafting guide?
  1. Stonekeep January 15, 2019
    I'm not really a Wild player myself, but I'll see what I can do!
2. Jordan January 15, 2019
  Under lynessa there is voudwalker listed whereas i think you meant to put voidlord.
  1. Stonekeep January 15, 2019
    Yes, you're right. I always mess up those close names, like Voidlord vs Voidwalker or Kabal Lackey vs Possessed Lackey lol. Fixing it right now, thanks!
Stonekeep April 24, 2019
Legendary Crafting Guide was just updated for the Rise of Shadows Meta. Comments below this one might be outdated.
Let me know if you spot any mistakes!
1. MilesTegF April 24, 2019
  Thanks for the update on this guide!
  The only error i spoted is in the description of the year of the Dragon sets: "The Year of the Raven consists of Rise of Shadows and two yet to known expansions" It says "raven" where it should say "dragon"
  1. Stonekeep April 24, 2019
    Thanks, fixed it! I've copied the description from YotR and missed that part when changing it :)
TheMessenJah April 24, 2019
i think it's safe for anyone who doesnt have it to craft Elysiana. As announced yesterday a nerf is incoming blizzard will return the dust spent! Am i correct???
ps: this post will raise the number of Elysianas being crafted and played and HS will be unplayable for the next few weeks :P
Hawk819 April 24, 2019
I'm good. I have all Legends for both Witchwood & R.o.S. hopefully, I'll nab some goldens when I re-purchase Witchwood w/ Raven Bundle. Cause I sure could use the dust. I'm missing a s!$# load of Epics.
1. Stonekeep April 24, 2019
  Yeah, right now Epics seem to be a lot bigger concern than Legendaries. There aren't a TON of "must have" Legends, while lots of decks require multiple Epics to play them competitively.
  I'll update the Epic crafting guide next - it should be ready by Friday!
Superband April 25, 2019
i agree with most points except for elysiana. she is really only good in control vs control. you don't need her in other matchups and is mostly only really viable in control warrior so far where you don't really have pressure cards in the deck. she is the worst topdeck against aggro too and a dead card most of the time. not hating the card but it is the truth. she is overhyped but she is queen against control matchups.
1. Stonekeep April 25, 2019
  The thing is - it doesn't matter that she's bad against aggro, because you absolutely need her for Control mirrors. And since Control decks are rather popular right now, you can't drop her. If you want to play Control (so Control Warrior, Bomb Warrior, Control Shaman), Elysiana is a must. If your opponent has her and you don't, you lose. Not 100% of the time, sometimes you will pull off a win through pressure, but most of the time you will just get outgrinded.
  That's why there's not really much you can do - if you play Control, you need to get her.
dimarco70 April 28, 2019
Boommaster Flark is both on the "Good to Craft" list and on the "Safe to Disenchant" one. Maybe the last needs an upgrade!
1. Stonekeep April 29, 2019
  Safe to Disenchant cards weren't updated for the Rise of Shadows yet. And yeah, I didn't expect Flark to actually start seeing play back then. But that's what can happen after rotation.
AryannaLao20 April 29, 2019
I saw Leeroy Jenkins and Harrison Jones being played frequently by Asian players in WCG. Ironically, one player lost a match to the Whelps that Leeroy Jenkins summoned. Must have been his last resort.
Shurchil April 29, 2019
Control Shaman seems to be one of the more popular and potent decks so why is Hagatha (the minion, not the hero card) not on the list? I think she needs to be mentioned at least.
1. dpskane April 29, 2019
  she could maybe be mentioned as a good craft, maybe. I haven't seen much control shaman. That might have changed now with the HCT, but even though hunterace made an excellent job with control shaman, it might not be a strong ladder deck, even for skilled people (because ladder competition).
  in that sense i find it the correct choice of stonekeep to currently not include Hagatha Swamp Queen. The card is too uncertain yet (it's a very good value card for sure, but control shaman needs to become a solid tier 2 deck to merit a craft advice). Note that this is basically a preliminary crafting guide right now: the meta has not settled at all, so stonekeep tries to only advice crafts that *already* look pretty good (like elysiana & boom). this list of best & good crafts is likely to be extended once the meta is better understood
2. Stonekeep April 29, 2019
  "Control Shaman seems to be one of the more popular and potent decks" - not really, though. When i was updating this no one was playing Control Shaman (and as much as I would love to, I can't predict the future). Calling it potent is also a bit of an overstatement. It's a Tier 3 deck right now according to stats. It's played now mostly because of HCT World Championship, not because it's an amazing deck. Keep in mind that tournament meta is different than ladder meta, mostly because you can just ban Warrior, which is something you can't do on ladder.
  I'll probably do another round of updates soon(-ish) and if Control Shaman actually sees common meta play (it might happen, because Shaman got some really good cards this expansion, but so far they don't seem to be just enough), then I'll definitely add it.
Stonekeep June 11, 2019
Legendary Crafting Guide was just updated for the Rise of Shadows Post-Buff Meta. Comments below this one might be outdated.
Let me know if you spot any mistakes!
1. OldManSanns June 11, 2019
  I see you downgraded Harrison from "Best" to just "Good", presumably because weapons have largely fallen out of favor... Any other major changes I'm missing?
  1. Stonekeep June 11, 2019
    Harrison is still a good craft (and if someone got him before, he definitely should not regret it), but it's not as good anymore when Rogues with Waggle Picks aren't 20% of the ladder :)
    When it comes to other "major" changes, I've added Khadgar to Best from RoS and SN1P-SN4P to Boomsday (once he's no longer free, that is).
    But most of the changes were to the "Good" crafts. Neither the nerf, nor the buff patch changed the most played Legendaries THAT much.
SANDRG August 2, 2019
Hello, got a doubt about the legendary drop rate .Assuming i haven't opened any pack from Boomsday Project expansion, so after the Saviors of Uldum expansion is out am i still guaranteed to get 1 legendary out of 10 boomsday packs or is it 1 out of 20 boomsday packs if i starts opening the boomsday packs now.
1. SANDRG August 4, 2019
  I got the answer in another thread , thanks .
Stonekeep September 3, 2019
Legendary Crafting Guide was just updated for the Saviors of Uldum Post-nerf. Comments below this one might be outdated.
Apologizes about the delay, but the nerf patch came out right after we were ready to post the first Uldum update, so it became obsolete immediately :(
Let me know if you spot any mistakes!
1. OldManSanns September 3, 2019
  I won't call it a mistake, but my personal opinion is that Sir Finley, King Phaoris, and Making Mummies are pretty niche cards that need a very specific deck to work which might or might not be viable in future months, meaning they aren't really worth crafting unless you want to play those respective decks right now. Conversely, Vessina and Dark Pharaoh Tekahn aren't necessarily top tier right now, but they are powerful and generic enough to package into any aggro deck and should be viable for as long as they stay in standard.
neverdustever September 3, 2019
Great guide! Bazaar Burglary isn't a Witchwood card though!
1. Stonekeep September 3, 2019
  And it's not under the Witchwood category :) It's a part of the Tess' description, it just happened to start a new line.
DukeStarswisher September 4, 2019
Now this isn't a judgement on the validity of this updated list (I agree with every bit of it), but it seems like this guide since I first discovered it two years ago has become super.... "safe".
There seems to be only a handful of cards (literally 10 hearthstone hand size lol) that are solid crafts for competitive play. Is this a result of the meta? Have you consciously tried to limit the "must-crafts" because of fear of misleading new players?
Even with the disclaimer at the beginning it seems like the list is trying to cover its a** in case changes are made in the near future. Would you say this is a true?
1. sbud78 September 4, 2019
  I've always read this guide as a list of legendaries I should craft if I finally scrounged up enough dust for one or two legendaries. In that case, I can't pick from a list much larger than a hearthstone hand size, or else I will definitely end up painted into a corner with no dust and a useless tier 3 deck that I can never reasonably climb with.
  So in a sense, you're right, the list is "safe", but to me, it's the exact intent of this list.
2. Stonekeep September 5, 2019
  Yes, you are correct about that. I tried to go a bit more "wild" with the list in the past, made a lot of assumptions and predictions about the cards' strength in the future etc. And while most of time I was correct, sometimes I wasn't - it happens, you obviously can't know how the future metas will look like.
  The truth is that maybe only half of people (and that's a generous estimate) read the disclaimers at the start. Even though they're there, I've got dozens of complaints over the expansions that I recommended X even though it quickly stopped seeing play once the meta changed. Even before the meta change, I had many people saying "why X or Y card is on the list?" and to be honest, I've got kind of tired of that. Telling people to read the first part of the guide (which is probably even more important to understand than the list itself) after every single update and explaining why X or Y is on the list wasn't particularly thrilling. Yes, I could just ignore those, but I'm not someone who ignores complaints or criticism (at least not deliberately, sometimes I just miss it). Since a lot of people complained, something was clearly wrong about that approach.
  So that's why lately I've decided to go super safe with those. For the most part, I've stopped trying to predict where the meta might go, which cards might be good and just focus on the cards that are solid right now and simply safe. And I think that this kind of approach works better for this kind of list, simply because most of those who really need it are either new players or F2P players that are low on Dust and can't afford to experiment.
  Another side effect of this is that I'm taking more time to update the list. Before I would slap it very quickly and make a lot of assumptions (again, mostly correct, but not always). Right now I'm trying to wait for the meta to stabilize before updating it. That's why in this case I waited for nearly a month after the set - because right after the initial meta really stabilized they already announced a nerf patch. I had a new list almost ready to publish, but didn't want to do it since the new patch was coming and I didn't know how it will affect everything yet.
  I'm not sure whether it's the correct approach or not, but that's what I'm doing for now. Maybe I'll go back to the old ways in the future, who knows :)
  1. DukeStarswisher September 5, 2019
    I'm sorry that people have pushed you away from the old ways... Its frustrating because even some of these cards could be nerfed or HoF (Leeroy I think is long overdue...) and it would be nobody's fault.
    Thanks for all you do Stonekeep! Keep up the good work!
    1. smasher101 September 5, 2019
      A nerf or HOF is a good thing for a card that has been crafted I don't get your point there.
  2. irhmgg April 29, 2020
    Skipper's pirate tag is not fixed
    1. Stonekeep April 29, 2020
      Thanks for the report, I fixed it.
LukeSBE January 9, 2020
I would *love* if Blizzard moved Whizbang to the Classic Set.
1. DustDodo January 25, 2020
  I think what Blizzard is doing from now on is printing Whizbang like card, like Zayle, Shadow Cloak.
Peter April 28, 2020
So right now the crafting guide is just craft every rogue card, cause rogue is still super broken, hasn't dropped out of tier 1 in who knows how long, and has almost no chance of being nerfed in a way that would do anything (cleef rotates)
Arun April 29, 2020
You my friend are doing God's work. I can't thank you enough for taking your time to come up with this.
Being a F2P player your guides are a huge help. As you emphasized on one of your replies to a comment here. This is exactly what I wanted, a safe craft guide.
Appreciate this very much.
1. Stonekeep April 29, 2020
  I'm glad that you like it! :)
Shurchil April 29, 2020
I have a question: does Flik clear the death pool of rezz as well? Or is it pure "kill" of existing minions?
1. irhmgg April 29, 2020
  existing
2. Stonekeep April 29, 2020
  He only clears minions on the board (excluding Dormant ones), in both hands and in both decks. He doesn't do anything about resurrect pool.
DragJok April 29, 2020
Thanx for the article! It's really usefull.
juauke April 29, 2020
Hi, your article is great.
Though, I have several questions if it's not too much for you to answer :
- Are Harrison Jones and Cairne Dragonhoof cards to keep or to dust ?
- Considering I already have Flik Skyshiv and the two legendaries mentioned above, what craft would you consider the most useful for the Rogue class (among Heistbaron Togwaggle, Kronx, Siamat and Edwin VanCleef) ?
- Here is my collection : https://hsreplay.net/collection/2/910217017/
How would you build a Rogue deck with my collection ? (I can craft some cards if necessary but for 3200 dust at most if there are some alternatives for the time being)
Thanks in advance for your response and thanks again for the awesome guide.
1. deal8 April 30, 2020
  Hi,
  Harrisson Jones is a good tech card. You should keep it. Don't hesitate to include him in your deck if you face a lot of weapon.
  Cairne has not been played for a long time. You can dust it.
  You collection is not up to date, i can't find Flik :(
  Rogue is currently an expensive class. Some decks run up to 10 legendaries.
  If you want a cheap rogue deck, you should look here : https://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/budget-secret-galakrond-rogue-deck-list-guide-ashes-of-outland/ (thanks a lot Stonekeep btw)
  I truly recomand you to craft both togwaggle and kronx since they are key cards of any rogue deck. (And fun to play)
  Your next priority will be first Hannar then Van Cleef
  If you can't craft the whole secret package from the guide , you can include SI:7 Agent (from your current collection) and some common neutral cards from Ashes of Outland like
  * Frozen Shadoweaver (a must have)
  * Imprisoned Vilefiend
  * Burrowing Scorpid
  * Bonechewer Brawler
  * Overconfident Orc
  You'll have most of these after opening a few AoO packs.
  I hope it will help !
  1. juauke May 4, 2020
    Hi,
    First and foremost, thanks for your reply.
    Strangely enough, Flik was my first non-given-for-free legendary but the collection should be updated by now.
    Then, thanks for the advice and the budget guide : I'll make that my goal.
    Last but not least, thanks for the alternatives.
    N.B. : should I prioritize getting the adventure wings or getting Ashes of Outland packs ?
    And if I were to spend money on the game, to you, what would get me the most bang for my buck ?
    1. deal8 May 5, 2020
      I sent a twitch DM to answer this.
      It should be more suitable to discuss about this :)
Shurchil May 4, 2020
Question: I am a Wild Player from time to time.
I have a golden copy of Stormbringer. Should I DE it? I consider it to craft a current Legendary.
I am not a budget player but I dont buy packs with money either.
1. Delta51596 July 7, 2020
  If you need the dust I think you can DE that, because to be honest it is strong in some Shaman deck such as EVOLVE Shaman or EVEN Shaman. It is op when you DISCOVER it but if you are not prefer to play these decks there is not reason to put that in your deck.
Arun May 27, 2020
Now that the META has shifted and settling in, are there any revisions to this crafting guide?
Flameblaze6 December 16, 2020
Is a darkmoon faire guide coming soon?
1. LorKxx January 16, 2021
  Actually happened now. You can come back.
Telim Tor January 18, 2021
I stop reading after this: "As you can see, the “new” Old Gods are clearly successful, but the one that stands out most is Y’Shaarj..."
Common..... Y’Shaarj is the worst of the old gods. Wich deck use it? ZERO
1. Yeetmiester September 19, 2021
  Incorrect, Y'shaarj is an insanely fun and good legendary when used correctly, but the problems lie in the decks that revolve around him.
  In this meta, with turn 7-8 OTK combos, sudden overpowered minion swarms and "trade blind" aggro decks, slower decks that utilise Y'shaarj:s true value simply haven't got the time (in most cases ofcourse, there are always exeptions).
  For example, remember Y'shaarj in control warlock? It was an astonishing powerplay when you got him out, as he rewarded you with another 8/8 "screw your cards" tickatus, another "screw your board" cascading disaster , plus an 6/6 strongman and a 10/10 body, all for just 10 mana (and this was basically minimum value). How is that not good?!
  So to my point, saying a card is "the worst" because it "ise'nt being used" is not always correct. If you wanna use that argument, then almost all 9/10 mana cards (even 8 sometimes) are absolute garbage... i that is pretty wrong, ain't it.
  OBS: This whole post is made out of a standard perspective, in wild Y'shaarj is not that strong (this is only because the corrupt abilites are only supported in standard).
MilesTegF January 18, 2021
Regarding Y'Shaarj, i been using it in the ladder with some success in a quest shaman. It's basically a combo deck where Your combo is HP + Y'Shaarj to deal up to 48 dmg with 4 corrupted circus médics and 4 corrupted dunk tanks. Now that The meta is not as aggro as it was about a month ago, The deck is doing much better now

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