I Am Not Prepared: The Diary of My Race to 1000 Demon Hunter Wins (Week 3)

Though I ended up a few wins and few percentages short of my goal, this was a much more fruitful week than the previous one. Now that the meta has begun to settle and everyone seems to be playing a variation of the same Demon Hunter archetype, it’s time to do what I enjoy the most: tinker with the established meta deck to find some minor edges in specific matchups. Problem is, that might be more challenging than usual in the Tempo Demon Hunter mirror.

Climb log

Not quite 220, but if you squint enough, it looks like 210, which is still in line with the “ten wins a day” plan. Fortunately, the average Demon Hunter match is just as quick as I have hoped, which gives me hope that I can reach 300 by the next time you hear from me.

The One Demon Hunter Deck

Since the Kael'thas Sunstrider/Inner Demon builds have all but vanished since the nerf (at least that’s one prediction I got right, along with the second nerfs), there’s basically just the one shell for the class, the tempo approach with various different power spike/payoff tools used in different builds. In many ways, this reminds me of the Kobolds and Catacombs days where Druid decks had an extremely strong and flexible ramp/draw/stall toolkit and could basically tack whatever wacky finisher they wanted to on the top of their curve for the endgame. You could not identify which one you were playing against until the point it was basically too late to adjust your gameplan.

To be fair, Tempo Demon Hunter is not that bad because the flex spots are not the finishers. The early game plays out in an identical manner across each of the archetypes and their overall strategy is the same across all builds, and the difference between a Priestess of Fury curve-topper or a set of Questing Adventurer shenanigans doesn’t change your gameplan against them in a fundamental way. However, it does go to show the limitations of the class in its current state, with basically just the one archetype on offer after the nerfs and little to no reason to believe that any “Big Demon”, Highlander or other sort of builds could emerge until the release of the next set. With a lot fewer cards available to work with compared to the other classes, the innovation potential remains limited – and with their one deck performing so well, it becomes a potentially futile quest to chase a few extra percentage points in the mirror match based on your tech decisions.

If you like playing with a strong tempo deck – and I do – it’s a decent gameplay experience. For those of us who’d perhaps prefer playing with the nine original classes as well from time to time, I can see how this would become mind-numbing over time: 47% of my matches were Demon Hunter mirrors in semi-dumpster Legend last week even after the two rounds of nerfs. There’s also the very real concern that the cumulative effects of the instant card nerfs with potential further future changes later down the line could leave Demon Hunter without any viable archetype. With just the one – albeit a very strong option – available, I’m actually quite worried about Illidan’s long-term prospects. The class was only just released and it already saw seven of its evergreen cards nerfed. Whatever Team 5 had planned for it, there’s no doubt it will need to be adjusted for the upcoming set releases.

For now, we’re stuck with various flavors of Tempo Demon Hunter. So where do we go from there?

Variations on a Vengeful Theme

To this day, my biggest deckbuilding triumph comes from the Curse of Naxxramas days where I managed to find a significant edge in the Undertaker Hunter mirror match by making a build around Nerubian Egg and Feign Death (coupled with Dire Wolf Alpha and Defender of Argus for complete shutouts). It was just as good as the normal build against everything else, crushed the mirror, and granted me a top 100 finish on the December 2014 leaderboards.

(Goodness me I’m getting old. The one wrinkle in time where I was provably better than Kolento /s)

I’m hoping for a similar experience at some point with this deep dive into VENGEANCESTONE, but it’s safe to say it hasn’t quite happened yet. With such a large burn potential in the late game and limited healing options, it’s tough to find anything which cracks the code. However, I was overjoyed to see a high Legend build with Questing Adventurers, and I think I now have a good handle on which are the real flex cards of Tempo Demon Hunter and which alternatives seem to be worth experimenting with. Interestingly, Chaos Strike has emerged as a core card in all tempo builds, and some tools that were previously seen as auto-include have fallen out of favor over the course of last week.

The Flex Cards

  • Spectral Sight – Turns out it can be challenging to find the time to draw the two cards off of this, and it can clog up your Altruis the Outcast turns too. The purer the tempo approach, the more you should consider cutting one or two copies of this card.
  • Satyr Overseer – You will almost never get more than one trigger off of this scary-looking fella, the Warglaives of Azzinoth dream almost never turns out to be a nightmare for the opponent, the two health makes it (and the tokens it summons) very susceptible to AoE. When was the last time you got it to stick in the mirror when you played it on curve? That’s pretty much why top players are beginning to look at potential replacements for this card.
  • Battlefiend – In most cases, Blazing Battlemage provides the same stats and starts out stronger, which can be crucial in the early turns of the mirror.

The Tech Options

  • Questing Adventurer (and Sightless Watcher) – Gotta start with this one. I already pegged this card for greatness before the first round of nerfs, and now it made it to high Legend builds as well. It requires no added support or setup as the plethora of cheap cards and redraws at your disposal already lend themselves well to this sort of buff and can come out as early as turn three if you’re willing to dump a Twin Slice or two. (This was fun.) Since no one is running Consume Magic, that can be pretty much game-winning in the mirror. Sometimes even a 4/4 is enough: Questing Adventurer can’t be ignored and if you time it well, it can massively disrupt your opponent’s gameplan. It’s a great punish for the Overgrowth turn, a Demon Hunter turn 5 play without mana cheating, and much more. Questing builds also seem to include a single copy of Sightless Watcher, which makes a lot of sense to me.
  • Mana Burn – Makes more sense in cycle-based decks and lends itself quite well to Questing Adventurer shenanigans, it’s a flexible spell with a role to play against Druid (and a surprisingly viable turn one option against Zoo).
  • Raging Felscreamer/Priestess of Fury – Turns out you don’t need much else in terms of mana cheating setup as a turn five Boulderfist Ogre with nausea is pretty much a game-winning setup as it is. This was Xixo’s Legend 1-worthy response to the second round of nerfs, replacing most of the package outlined below.
  • Blazing Battlemage/Frenzied Felwing/Acidic Swamp Ooze – This was the go-to pre-nerf approach when trying to leverage a tempo lead in the mirror, but Felwings were tough to get online if you started second and offered a lot less staying power after the nerf. As for the Ooze, turns out the best way to shut down a Warglaives of Azzinoth is to deal enough face damage that your opponent can’t use it to clear.
  • Vulpera Scoundrel and Escaped Manasaber – A really interesting build by だんぷぅgives you another way to generate cost-effective Demon Hunter spells from a small pool and lets you bridge the gap from 4 mana to 6 with a stealthed minion, which can potentially serve as a bit of delayed burn as well. I haven’t had much luck with the former card but I can see potential applications for Escaped Manasaber in different builds as well.
  • Frozen Shadoweaver – I think we’ve got a winner here. Check this out:

Deck Import

To me, the Frescha build seems like the way to go. Considering most other viable meta decks also belong to weapon classes, double Frozen Shadoweaver seems quite reasonable to me. Now that we’ve figured out that neither Spectral Sight nor Satyr Overseer are auto-includes, maybe we can find those few missing percentages in the mirror. To me, the most notable aspect of his build is the replacement of Battlefiend with Blazing Battlemage as a like-for-like swap, which, as we’ve discussed above, could very well be a masterstroke.

The Grind Conundrum: Quantity Over Quality

Readers of this column have probably guessed that I spent most of my time with the Questing build once it cycled back into the meta. At one point, I had a 10-2 record with it but unfortunately it decayed to a 55% overall record for the week. At least now I have a very good idea of the build I want to explore next week, with the sole goal of improving my mirror match winrate (23-17 last week, 87-87 over the entire season – pretty much the reason I haven’t climbed as high as I wanted.) So what’s next? The problem with grinding for 1000 wins is that it necessarily involves a lot of playsessions and gameplay without a 100% focus, and that has really strained my winrate.

Fantastic sessions were followed by absolutely awful ones with clearly identifiable misplays – the fact that you can attack again after using up your Warglaives of Azzinoth if your hero has spare attack has been an especially tough gameplay wrinkle to internalize, and I occasionally prioritized an extra Questing Adventurer stat over an added Altruis the Outcast trigger too – so it’s probably time to slow down somewhat. Not in terms of the climb, but in terms of playing: just like how my chess rating spikes up as we go from slower to longer time controls, there’s no reason not to game out the possibilities during the 90 seconds available.

Let’s see what the Lifecoach cosplay and some nasty tech cards can do as I make my way to 300 wins.

My Predictions, for What They’re Worth

  • Eggro Warrior will become a larger part of the meta (the remnants of Warmaul Challenger can be so nasty to deal with, and a potential nightmare if you leave them up)
  • I’d say a 60% winrate in the mirror but that’s a dream not a prediction
  • 300 wins, back to top 1k, smug satisfaction when I find the new Questing Adventurer

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Luci Kelemen is an avid strategy gamer and writer who has been following Hearthstone ever since its inception. His content has previously appeared on HearthstonePlayers and Tempo/Storm's site.

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6 Comments

  1. DemianHS
    April 28, 2020 at 6:11 pm

    VENGEANCESTONE. So delicious! xD

    I’m still hating DH. But who know, maybe i will tray once. 🙂

  2. Ovationplay
    April 28, 2020 at 1:37 am
  3. Aleksandr
    April 27, 2020 at 2:07 pm

    Have you tried adding Antaen? It combines well with Felscreamer too.
    What about blade dance? Seems strong in mirror.

    • Medo
      April 27, 2020 at 2:35 pm

      Actually play one antaen instead of Kayn since I don’t have Kayn and the rush Murloc instead of the sightless watcher card.works pretty well