Greetings again,

please, if you try to cover your answer with “real world facts”, please don’t be afraid to show a source for said facts, just like I did in my first answer. Despite the lack of sources, I will try and answer your doubting regarding those matchups:

“DK Mage”: I don’t know which archetype you’re referring to, but let’s take Big Mage. That has indeed a slightly favored matchup against Control Priest, it always had. That however does NOT mean that it’s an autoloss. You need to mulligan hard for Anduin and you need to try to get in early minion pressure before they clear the board.

“Face Mage”: We see a 54% WR for the most prominent Burn Mage deck against Priest on metastats. However, lots of Control Priest lists have a positive or even WR aganist Burn Mage as well. In the end I’d say it’s a pretty balanced matchup; we have tons of healing thanks to Shadow Visions and Divine Hymn, and a defensive Alex can work wonderes. Duskbreaker challenges every single minion on the board at once, so if you try to outheal them you’ll get a good chance to win at the end. This is most DEFINITELY NOT an autoloss.

Quest Warrior: I said this many times in the comments section, but it’s common knowledge that Quest Warrior vs Control Priest is more of a skill matchup than anything, and that applies to lower ranks more than anything. Bad players try to do their quest asa fast as possible so that they can kill you with their Hero Power, and that gives us enough time to get in early minion and Anduin damage. Shadow Visions for multiple Mass Dispels does tons of work, and newer lists include Twilight Acolyte and Cabal Shadow Priest to steal one of their Taunt minions. I do have to admit that it’s one of the harder matchups to play from a skill perspective, but if you’re the better player piloting your deck in this specific matchup, you’ll increase your winning edge and therefore WR by a ton.
As a personal note, I’m currently 7-1 with this deck against Warrior this season, and none of these matches have been against Aggro or Rush.

Shudderwock: They need to get their combo in the first 15-20 cards. Everybody can lose against a combo-heavy archetype if they draw the nuts. In the bigger picture, Shudderwock Shaman is so incredibly inconsistent that you should be able to outplay them much more often than they draw the nuts against you. There’s a reason this deck is Tier 1 and Shudderwock Shaman is Tier 3.

“Druids”: It’s funny that you say that the Druid matchup is 50/50, because it is BY FAR the worst matchup for Control Priest across all ranks (Quest Rogue becomes worse but only at 5-Legend). You just simply can’t do a whole lot against even one Spiteful Summoner on curve if you don’t have enough early minion pressure. Some people even mulligan for SW:D, but a Tyrantus high roll for example will basically crush your soul. The unrelenting minion pressure with lots of Taunts overcomes the average board clear capabilities of Control Priest.

Taunt Druid on the other hand can become, similar to Quest Warrior, a skill matchup, because Taunt Druid itself is very hard to play, and it is very easy to lose if you don’t know how much damage the Priest can dish out in one turn; one wrong use of Branching Path for example can easily win you the game, but you have to play the better game as well of course.

And now some numbers for these terms “dead” and “autolose”: My worst matchup this season is Druid, and I’m 12-18 with Control Priest against Druid. That’s a 40% WR in 5-Legend. That means that out of 10 games I win 4 games. It DOESN’T mean that I lose every game out of 10 games. Please stop using this kind of “definitive” language when it comes to statistics, it just blatantly shows that you have no numbers and no experience to back your claims.

I have played over 150 games with this deck the last two seasons, and I can safely say that this rightfully has become a Tier 1 deck, just because it has no real losing matchups, The amount of working mechanisms when behind is unmatched or only challenged by Cubelock at the moment, and this deck will only get stronger after the nerfs hit next week.

Please try to badmouth a Tier 1 deck somewhere else, because here your “real world facts” really don’t shine. As “priestplayer” said, you’re welcome to post replays of one of your matches against these “unwinnable matchups” so we can discuss them!

Good stuff! There are still waaay too many people that play Hearthstone without recognizing the bigger picture.

We will eventually update this guide once the new patch hits, and we will talk a lot about these two cards.

I really like the Holy Fire tech choice; it adds tons of reach against armor-heavy decks like Taunt Druid or Odd Warrior, and it can save your ass against our arch nemesis Quest Rogue.

Twilight Acolyte is a tricky one; it serves as some sort of alternative for SW:D, but it’s way less reliant. I always go for SW:D just because I can get it with Shadow Visions. SW:D of course lowers the chance to get Mind Blast with SV, but I take that disadvantage in favor of a very effective removal *spell*. Back in “old” Dragon Priest, minion presence to defend the board in the early stages meant everything, but I think that Mind Blast Priest has enough spells to do that in the early game anyway.

This deck does very well across all ranks, so there’s no reason to not try it! Mind Blast Priest will most likely come out ahead after the nerfs as well, just because they won’t affect this deck at all.

I’d advise you to try the deck out more, a sample size of 4 games is pretty low, especially at low ranks. You can also sift through the comments if you feel like you need to include certain tech cards to have some “back up plans” depending on the current meta.

Great to hear, Legend is in sight!

Good point!

That’s fine. I personally really like Acidic Swamp Ooze just because it can deal tons of damage early against heavy control bullies if they don’t draw well, and that one extra turn you can play it earlier can mean 3 more damage in the end.

You should at least run one copy of it. It’s your backup against Aggro if you don’t draw into early board clear, and it buys you turns against heavy control boards (Void Lords, etc.).

According to hsreplay, in 140.000 games played, the winrate of this deck against any Warlock is over 62%.

https://hsreplay.net/decks/fS2rEbxNUX8wr40SnkHYzb/#gameType=RANKED_STANDARD&tab=overview

According to the last two vS Data Reaper Reports, the deck’s winrate against both Cube and Control Warlock is well over 50%, and was even higher two weeks ago.

https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/drr/matchup-chart-data-reaper-report/

It’s one thing that you don’t seem to be able to play the deck and its matchups correctly, but it’s very rude to call a given fact a “huge lie” that can be disproved within ten seconds worth of Google search.

That’s not entirely true. The deck may not have a positive WR over all ranks, but I’m absolutely certain that many, many Warrior players at lower ranks don’t know what Priest deck they’re facing, and in that case it’s more of a skill matchup than anything.

Tough call. Many folks try to separate “normal” creatures affected by fel energy from “real” demons, and Satyrs would belong most definitely to the first group of entities that eventually became demons.

It destroys all 1-mana spells in both your own and the enemy’s deck. This can be very useful in the matchup against Warlocks because you destroy their copies of Dark Pact which are an excellent source of healing up over and over again.

Evident may correct me if I’m wrong, but all the Guide lists will get replaced by the most popular list that gets tracked by metastats or hsreplay as soon as those lists become popular in the first place.

I still think that the deck is fine without Geist, but other people, including my dear colleague Stonekeep, think that Geist instead of Harrison is the way to go. Initially the list has done very well without Geist, but maybe now, after a lot of Warlocks know what they’re up against, adding Geist might be the right move.

All in all I’d say it’s personal preference. If you feel like Geist improves your matchups, go ahead and take him on your journey 🙂

Ashmore is a tough in the current state of the game. As already said in the comments below, she’s a great fit, but will gain so much more value over the course of the Standard year due to a bigger card pool.

A good replacement would be a high-value late game minion like Cairne.

Swapping dragons is a tough one because your Scaleworms lose tons of synergy. Besides that, Primordial Drake still serves as the best nail in the coffin against Aggro board refill, so I’d rather swap a Twilight Drake.

Another thing: Lich King is a great card, it offers tons of value. But what can it do in this list that we don’t already have? It’s basically an 8-mana 8/8 taunt minion, because only one of its eight DK cards will add more reach to our damage kit (Death Coil), and I’d rather take PD’s board clear to be honest 🙂

Yesterday I ruined a Token Druid’s day with Pyro+Mass Dispel against a board full of whisps with Soul of the Forest.

Generally speaking, Mass Dispel does tons of work against basically all archetypes. You need draw, and you need to survive. Yes, we don’t run a combo that relies on face damage, but Alex + Mass Dispel the next turn can give you enough reach against Warlocks or Warriors for example.

Even against Paladins this card can take out a lot of damage if you draw poorly in the early game. It silences Divine Shields, Knife Jugglers and other stuff that they can capitalize on.

I don’t think you should go for this list when you’re F2P. Aggro decks still are much cheaper, and Odd/Even Paladin do very well for their cost, and they are much easier to play. On the other side, all of the cards in this deck have very high crafting value anyway.

Agreed, Grom has always been the backbone of Tempo Warrior no matter what list and meta!

Depends on their skill level. As said before, I’m convinced that it is a pretty decent skill-based matchup, and if YOU know what you’re doing and the Warrior doesn’t, then it could easily go your way. Many Odd Warriors try to equip Sulfuras asap, and that gives us enough time to burn through the low amounts of Armor due to them not having their Hero Power anymore. However, if they choose to not equip the quest weapon, winning is actually not that easy.

Last but not least, Odd Warrior is a very niche archetype according to the latest ladder statistics, so I wouldn’t be too worried about it.