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Irish Seadog

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Final Showdown

Unless DH gets some way if refilling the deck, I’m not entirely convinced that reward will be relevant, let alone worthwhile, once you’ve drawn through so much of your deck… I doubt even this will be enough to make glide worthwhile.

Let’s see… earliest possible completion is ~ turn 5 (t1 quest, t2 whatever, t3 crimson sigil runner + spectral sight, t4 glide or coin skull + sigil runner (both discounted), t5 glide or (coin) Skull of Gul’dan + double jump (both discounted). From this, by the time the reward may be played (t6), you would’ve played ~5 cards and drawn a few. If we first consider no glides (since glide may still be pretty bad for a number of reasons), 16 cards would already have been drawn. Admittedly, this may have relevance for combo decks since the cost reduction already enables ploughing through the deck, but this reveals a maximum of 14 cards benefitting from the final reward, and that’s worth spending 5 turns doing nothing but drawing cards… might be worth vs control, but you probably toss the quest back vs aggro. 3/5 if there’s a combo deck that wants this, but I’m not 100% convinced even there.

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Sketchy Information

It’ll certainly be interesting to see what deathrattles are printed this expansion.

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Remote-Controlled Golem

I’m not sure it necessarily works that well with N’Zoth st least though due to the 2/1s, although it could still be worth for the other menagerie synergies.

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Remote-Controlled Golem

Peculiar. I’m not quite sure what to make of it, but it’s got a good start line so… 3/5 at least.

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Provoke

Quite narrow, which is alleviated by Tradeable, but can effectively turn most minions into board clears (although I’m fairly sure if the minion dies, the effect will stop early). 4/5

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Command the Elements

With Bloom existing, this certainly looks like one of the easier questlines to complete. Intermediates look promising, particularly the first, and the final reward well facilitates a win condition. 5/5

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Lost in the Park

Ok, this is interesting. It’s clearly for a midrange deck, and a rather unusual one at that. The new “gain attack” minion looks pretty solid, and this deck definitely needs to be able to establish board presence vs slower decks since this isn’t quite enough burn on it’s own. The reward substantially helps stabilise vs aggro whilst providing a decent finisher vs control, and the intermediates provide some (probably much needed) survivability. 3/5, but might be better.

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Garrote

So, this wants a draw-heavy deck. This is a rogue card, and dra ing cards is all they seem to do. We can expect this to deal at least 6 damage fairly consistently then, so vs classes that don’t have much healing/armour gain, this is a (slower) 2-mana fireball (you could argue that you need to invest more cards to get the full effect, but you’re only doing stuff you’d be doing anyway in a miracle rogue deck, so there’s not really any extra cost). Two of these represent half the life total at the top end, but they’re a little slow so 4/5.

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Persistent Peddler

Seems pretty decent. I like the way they’re using the Tradeable mechanic to alleviate the card’s consistency issues, which is probably enough to make it better than generically summoning a 4/3 on deathrattle. 4/5

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Auctioneer Jaxon

Likely only getting the effect off once, but pretty nice nonetheless for decks in need of some consistency. 3/5

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Two-Faced Investor

Love these cards… they’re so derpy.

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Dark Alley Pact

An 8/8 on turn 4 is surely nothing to be sniffed at.

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Anetheron

Solid, assuming handlock will be a deck. So far, I’d say it probably will since this is the 3rd support card we’ve seen this expansion already. May also see play in Wild evenlock since all the support we’ve seen so far could fit there. I’m very intrigued by Warlock’s set so far since it appears to go in three different directions, although each direction is somewhat supported by existing cards in Standard (other than Handlock, which probably doesn’t need loads of support to become relevant because, well, life tap).

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Dark Alley Pact

Surely it’s more comparable to Mountain Giant?

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Dark Alley Pact

Looks like they’re supporting evenlock again… in comparison to Mountain Giant, this looks pretty promising, even in Standard. 4/5

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Bolner Hammerbeak

I didn’t even think of it working that way… that’s pretty sweet.

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Lightbringer's Hammer

Decent control tool for a slower midrange deck if the meta demands it, could see play in Libram pally, but might not be necessary. 2.7/5

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Rise to the Occasion

One interesting point is that First Day of School would be pretty good for completing this, so that should alleviate the deck building issue to some extent. I would say the payoff from this is far, far better than those other two: Lakkari Sacrifice is awful because a) it’s a quest for an aggro deck, which creates important tempo and consistency issues; b) you have to pay 5 mana for no immediate effect. This second point is particularly notable in comparison since in this case, the payoff has above-curve stats, so the tempo loss is much more limited. Additionally, the 3/3s are SHRs, and the deck is packed full of synergies to exploit them well (cf odd paladin in Wild, which has been a consistently strong deck based off a faster version of this for ages). Hack the Sysyem, by contrast, is underwhelming because a) resources must be continually invested to make the HP work and b) a deck full of weapons is inevitably awkward and clunky, whereas for this to form a successful midrange dude paladin list, not too much deviation from a quest less list should be necessary.

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Shady Bartender

So, the obvious comparison is funglmancer. This’ll be pretty good if smol demon ziplock can be a thing.

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Elwynn Boar

That’s fair enough, your idea with Druid might actually be better tbh.

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