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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

I do not think the card would see play then. Bombs can wait until fatigue and just add more every turn once there.

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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

If Mecha’thun becomes very common, silence effects will follow. Then the Mecha’thun decks will need to add more combo elements to the deck, and soon they are actually Mecha’thun combo decks. Then, they will have a harder time defending against more aggressive decks. At which point their popularity will fall, and pure control will be more popular again.

Some level of cyclicity is inevitable in the meta, of course.

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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

The aggro – midrange – control – combo fan fight will go on forever, I’m sure. Yet, I do not wish for any of the players to be punished for playing the game.

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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

Then it would be a dead card. I think “Give your Battlecry minions +1 Attack” has a small flavor advantage compared to that change. As an archivist, Elysiana would surely appreciate the sense of history in that adjustment.

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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

It would at best be cyclical: people start cutting Elysiana, so others see an opportunity and start adding it back in. Actually, what would even punish people for keeping it in. It is just one card slot, two with a bounce, and bounce can be useful with other cards in non-mirrors.

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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

Yes, it happens in control games, but control players are people too!

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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

Untargetable by minions does not currently exist in the game. Also, it does nothing against Shudderwock.

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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

Simply removing bombs has the problem that Bomb Warrior would start shuffling in fatigue so you draw all the bombs immediately.

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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

That could work, although it would be mandatory in all control decks, and Bomb Warrior would run it too and go toe-to-toe into fatigue alongside lots of bombs. Control overall would be weaker against aggression, but not running it would always lose against a control deck that does.

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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

It’s not just about the power level, it’s also about control mirrors lasting twice as long as before. That is a quality of life issue by itself.

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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

Maybe. Then there would still be another issue, actually, called Da Undatakah.

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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

It is already limited at 30. You can build a Control Shaman list that avoids hitting the limit fairly easily.

From Discover to random might do something, as it would allow some of the other suggestions in comments here, such as making Elysiana a Deathrattle – that would also get rid of the Shudderwock issue, but open up Undatakah issue.

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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

You cannot do thing on your opponent’s turn at the moment, so you cannot discover the new cards if your opponent kills Elysiana, unless there is a major change in the way the game works.

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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

If you can shuffle + bounce / repeat the Battlecry, the problem is there at full force. If you give it to one class, that class becomes the best control class, or if it is a non-control class, such as Rogue, the card will never see play.

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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

This approach might help some. It will still be mandatory in control decks and add length to games, but at least less than full 45 turns.

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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

Still mandatory in all control decks. Control Shaman wins every other control deck in fatigue with Shudderwock.

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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

I have played thousands of games with control decks, and the first time I reached the turn limit was now during Rise of Shadows.

I know some people had got there with tons of armor in some games before, but it was extremely rare.

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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

If Elysiana adds any cards to the deck, it will be mandatory in all control decks.

If it does not counter bombs at all, Bomb Warrior will rule. The recent Gamer’s Assembly tournament that banned Elysiana had 7/8 people in top-8 with Bomb Warrior.

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Archivist Elysiana broke control matchups - but they can be repaired

Then it will still be mandatory in every control deck and Control Shaman will be the only deck to ever have the effect twice because of Shudderwock.

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Bomb Hunter Deck List Guide – Rise of Shadows – May 2019

Whirliglider and Tracking see some play in this archetype more generally too. They usually replace cards such as Unleash the Hounds, Leeroy Jenkins, and Acidic Swamp Ooze. I think Mecharoo and Galvanizer are core cards for this, and I really like the build featured here.

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