Horde vs Alliance Event Guide – Honor Points System in Alterac Valley Expansion Explained, Drek’Thar or Vanndar Stormpike

Update: The event will go live today (December 1). Players started getting honor early due to a bug and Blizzard has decided to roll with it and just activate the event earlier.

For the first time ever, Hearthstone players themselves will be dragged into the long-lasting Horde vs Alliance conflict from Warcraft lore.

When you first log in after downloading Patch 21.8, the game will ask you to choose a side. You can join either Horde or Alliance. Joining Horde will give you a golden copy of the Drek'Thar Neutral Legendary, while joining Alliance will give you a golden copy of the Vanndar Stormpike Neutral Legendary. Both of them are playable RIGHT NOW! After you swear your allegiance, you can’t change your mind. Luckily, it doesn’t mean that you will be locked out of the other Legendary – after the event starts, you will be able to get it through a Quest Chain or simply craft the non-Golden version (I’m not sure if they will be openable through packs, but I would also assume so).

Now, the question is – which one should you choose? If you prefer one faction over the other, then you should probably pick it to support it (more about it below). However, if you don’t care, you should decide based on the Legendary you get. At this point, before expansion’s launch, it looks like Vanndar is more popular, but Drek’thar is a higher win rate one – in Standard, that is. In Wild, Drek’Thar is hands down a better option, Vanndar is way too slow for that format. However, we don’t know how things will look after expansion drops, numbers might change. So if you think about the future, you should consider what playstyle you prefer – Drek’Thar clearly favors low-curve, Aggro decks (or possibly Combo if you don’t need any high cost minions for your combo), while Vanndar only fits into specific slow, Control or “Big” builds that don’t play any small minions. So if you like fast archetypes – Drek’Thar will be a better choice, and vice-versa.

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Now that you picked your side, you might be wondering – what’s all that for? Right now, the only thing you’re getting is one of the two Legendaries, and that’s it. However, after expansion releases on December 7th, that’s when the real Honor event will start.

Every player will get a Legendary Quest Chain, which will progressively ask players to obtain more Honor points as they climb through the ranks. In case you’re not aware, Honor is the PvP “currency” in WoW (or rather one of them) – you get it for killing players from other faction and can trade it for rewards. In Hearthstone, however, Honor will be gained by simply playing Constructed, Arena or Duels matches. Here’s how much Honor you will gain:

  • 10 Honor for every game played
  • 10 more Honor for every game won (20 total)
  • 20 more Honor for every game won versus an opponent from the enemy faction (40 total)

In other words, you want to play Hearthstone matches and you want to win, preferably against someone from the enemy faction! Sadly, as of right now, we don’t know exactly how much Honor will the entire Quest chain require and what the rewards are. That said, we do know that one of the rewards will be enemy faction’s leader – so if you picked Drek'Thar, you will still be able to get Vanndar Stormpike – and vice versa. We’ll update this post once we learn the Quest requirements and rewards.

On January 11, all the honor points will be tallied. On that date, the winner will be picked based on the total amount of Honor their faction got. The winning faction will get commemorated with a Diamond version of their leader – it will be given out to everyone who participated in the event. However, that’s not when the event is over. We’ve got a confirmation that the event itself will last until the next expansion – which means that you have ~4 months to grind through the ranks. So ultimately, the rewards will be the same no matter whether you picked the winning or losing faction – you don’t have to worry about missing out on anything.

But how many games does it take to get there, you might ask? While it will heavily depend on your win rate and how many players from the opposite faction you face, we can do some basic calculations for an average scenario. If you win 50% of your games and 50% of your opponents are from the enemy faction, you will get – on average – 20 Honor per match of Constructed, Arena or Duels.

You can quickly calculate how many games it will take for you to get to each rank using the table below. You have a total honor required to get there on the far right. But let’s do the math for the highest ranks and Golden faction leader rewards – 7200 Honor. With 20 Honor per match, it would take 360 matches to get there. Now, given that there is time until the next expansion and expansions last for roughly 120 days each, you will need to play 3 Hearthstone games on average to complete the entire chain until the end of Alterac Valley set. That’s… honestly, still quite a lot – if you play a lot of Hearthstone it shouldn’t be a problem at all, but more casual players might have a hard time getting there.

Below, you can find a table with full amounts of Honor required and rewards for each rank:

Alliance Quest Alliance Reward Horde Quest Horde Reward Rank Honor Total Honor
Corporal x1 Golden Stormpike Aid Station Grunt x1 Golden Frostwolf Kennels 40 40
Sergeant x1 Golden Stormpike Aid Station Sergeant x1 Golden Frostwolf Kennels 80 120
Master Sergeant x1 Golden Dun Baldar Bunker Senior Sergeant x1 Golden Iceblood Tower 180 300
Sergeant Major x1 Golden Dun Baldar Bunker First Sergeant x1 Golden Iceblood Tower 260 560
Knight x1 Golden Dun Baldar Bridge Stone Guard x1 Golden Iceblood Garrison 400 960
Knight-Lieutenant x1 Golden Dun Baldar Bridge Blood Guard x1 Golden Iceblood Garrison 500 1460
Knight-Captain x1 Golden Iceblood Garrison Legionnaire x1 Golden Dun Baldar Bridge 540 2000
Knight-Champion x1 Golden Iceblood Garrison Centurion x1 Golden Dun Baldar Bridge 620 2620
Lieutenant Commander x1 Golden Iceblood Tower Champion x1 Golden Dun Baldar Bunker 660 3280
Commander x1 Golden Iceblood Tower Lieutenant General x1 Golden Dun Baldar Bunker 780 4060
Marshal x1 Golden Frostwolf Kennels General x1 Golden Stormpike Aid Station 840 4900
Field Marshal x1 Golden Frostwolf Kennels Warlord x1 Golden Stormpike Aid Station 900 5800
Grand Marshal x1 Golden Drek'Thar High Warlord x1 Golden Vanndar Stormpike 1400 7200

Stonekeep

A Hearthstone player and writer from Poland, Stonekeep has been in a love-hate relationship with Hearthstone since Closed Beta. Over that time, he has achieved many high Legend climbs and infinite Arena runs. He's the current admin of Hearthstone Top Decks.

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11 Comments

  1. JoyDivision
    November 16, 2021 at 11:59 pm

    ‘… So if you like fast archetypes – Drek’Thar will be a better choice, and vice-versa…’

    Although it might be obvious, besides your preferred play style it should be mentioned that in a vacuum, a deck that doesn’t draw Drek’Thar can still work flawlessly while a deck that doesn’t draw Stormpike might not work at all (getting stomped with a bunch of unplayable cards in hand).

    • Stonekeep - Site Admin
      November 17, 2021 at 5:30 am

      That’s aboslutely true. If you build your entire deck around Drek’thar, you still have a functioning (albeit a bit weaker) Aggro deck. But if you build your entire deck around Vanndar, then not drawing it can be a big deal.

      Vanndar’s effect is much stronger in the vacuum (reducing the cost of multiple cards by 3 is MASSIVE), but it’s also much harder to pull off and decks that will play it would most likely rely on him heavily.

  2. Pandamonium
    November 16, 2021 at 3:34 pm

    How do they release Drek’Thar with that text? I honestly have no idea what that means. 2 Drek’Thars? Then say 2 of this. And when they show the skin bundles in the shop and you can only see the first class’s icon because they overlapped the icons backwardly or could have just moved the class icons to the other side.

    • Inhiszton
      November 16, 2021 at 4:18 pm

      I think it means two random minions from your deck will be summoned (like the old “Recruit” mechanic).

    • Diminisher
      November 16, 2021 at 5:09 pm

      To me, it sounds like when one of your other minions is summoned then two of them will be summoned. Otherwise, if it was a one time summon two minions from your deck it would match the power level of the alliance minion.

    • Stonekeep - Site Admin
      November 16, 2021 at 5:35 pm

      Inhiszton is correct – it summons two random minions from your deck. Yes, the wording is confusing, I was wondering the same at first.

      • Pandamonium
        November 16, 2021 at 5:55 pm

        Haha now I feel dumb because it just didn’t click before, and now it does feel like the right wording.

        • Stonekeep - Site Admin
          November 17, 2021 at 7:04 am

          Yeah, at first I thought that it might summon two copies of Drek’thar himself (two extra 4/4’s), but I realized that two minions from your deck would make more sense. The wording is clear once you know it, but yeah, it can be a bit confusing when you first read it (but it’s hard to make it both short, clear and understandable at the same time).

    • JoyDivision
      November 17, 2021 at 12:02 am

      ‘…every minion… summon two of them …’ wording is perfectly fine (on this card 😉 ).

    • Banaani
      November 17, 2021 at 6:41 am

      I joked that it means “summon two of every minion in your deck”