Hearthstone Hall of Fame Dust Refunds, Crafting, & Arcane Dust Guide (Year of the Dragon)

There’s always a lot of questions about how the Dust refunds are going to work when the Standard Rotation hits with the Hall of Fame, so I’ve created a small guide explaining the process of the Dust refunds and how crafting cards will work.

How does the Hall of Fame Arcane Dust Refund Work?

Once the Standard rotation goes live, cards from the Classic Set will be added to the Hall of Fame. This means that the cards will no longer be usable in the Standard Format and can only be played in Wild.

When will the Standard Rotation Happen?

There’s no official date, but it happens on the release of the first expansion of each year. The history of previous launches tells us it is usually in Early-Mid April.

Year of the Dragon Hall of Fame Additions

Here is the full list of cards that will be moved to Hall of Fame with Year of the Dragon:

How Does The Dust Gain From Rotation Work

Blizzard is giving players Arcane Dust for each of the cards they own that are transitioning to the Hall of Fame, while allowing the players to KEEP the cards. This Dust refund, however, is only up to the amount of a particular card that can be placed in a deck (1x for Legendary, 2x for other rarities). You also get Dust for the highest quality version you have (Golden vs. non-Golden).

Here’s what this means:

You get Dust once for each of the Legendaries that you own (does not apply to Year of the Raven).

  • If you own 1x Golden copy and 1x non-Golden copy you will only receive Dust for the Golden copy.

You get Dust for up to 2x of each other card you own that isn’t Legendary.

  • If you own 1x Golden copy and 3x non-Golden copies you will receive Dust for 1x Golden copy and 1x non-Golden copy.
  • If you own 2x Golden copies and 3x non-Golden copies you will receive Dust for 2x Golden copies.

How much Dust could I receive all together for Year of the Raven?

  • If you own all of the cards listed as non-Golden: (2x Legendary: 3,200 Dust + 4x Epic: 1,600 Dust + 6x Rare: 600 Dust + 4x Common: 160 Dust) = 5,560 Dust
  • If you own all of the cards listed as Golden: (2x Legendary: 6,400 Dust + 4x Epic: 6,400 Dust + 6x Rare: 4,800 Dust + 4x Common: 1,600 Dust) = 19,200 Dust

How do I Maximize the Amount of Dust I Get?

So, what is the best course of action if you want to maximize your Dust? First, disenchanting the cards after you receive the refund will give you the normal amount of Dust back. So, in the case of a Golden Epic you would receive 400 back and a non-Golden Epic would give you 100 back if you disenchanted them after the rotation happens.

If you don’t own any or own some of the cards

You should craft the ones you don’t have in Golden if you have that kind of Dust lying around. You either get all the cards you didn’t have for free in their Golden form, or you can disenchant them all after receiving the refund during the rotation.

If you own all of the cards in non-Golden form

You only really gain Dust if you craft Golden common cards (assuming you want to keep the non-Golden copies), because the Dust returns end up being the same.

  • You get 400 Dust back if you already have one of the Epic non-Golden cards.
  • If you craft a golden Epic it will cost you 1,600 Dust, which you then get back, and then you can disenchant it for 400 Dust.
  • Either way you are gaining 400 Dust.

However, if you really wanted to have the Golden version of the card it’s worth crafting because you can always disenchant it later for the 1,600 Dust.

Common cards are the only way you can gain extra Dust if you own regular copies of a card:

  • If you do nothing you’ll gain 160 Dust for the 4x Common Cards.
  • If you craft 4x Golden Common cards for 1,600 dust, receive the Dust back, you can disenchant them for 200 Dust gaining you 40 Dust for a minute or two of work!

I’m ready to start crafting!

Hold on there, Turbo. You would actually be better served waiting until very close to the rotation because you could get some of these cards in packs which would get you Dust for free rather than having to front the cost and gaining it back later!

I hope this helps everyone understand the process, but I can answer questions in the comments if anyone has any. Also, please let me know if you think something could be explained better!

Stonekeep

A Hearthstone player and writer from Poland, Stonekeep has been in a love-hate relationship with Hearthstone since Closed Beta. Over five years of playing and four years of writing about the game, he has achieved infinite Arena and multiple top 100 Legend climbs. He's the current admin of Hearthstone Top Decks.

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114 Comments

  1. Saltysoso
    March 14, 2019 at 5:52 am

    So, if I have 3200 dust, my best option, mathematically speaking, would be to craft a Golden Legendary, right? Because I would get 3200+1600 from crafting it, right? Than I can just recraft the normal one and I would end up with a free legendary card 🙂

    • Saltysoso
      March 14, 2019 at 6:12 am

      Ooor, I could just craft both Baku and Genn, receive 3200 and still keep both legendaries… Hmm. Sounds better this way.

  2. Math-Guru
    April 16, 2018 at 1:11 pm

    Done some stuff correct me if wrong.
    Max Value disenchanting all cards you got excluding examples with overcrafting suchs as having 1N and crafting 1N+1G. Example Epic Card. Value Golden 1600 craft – 400 disenchant. Value Non Golden 400 craft – 100 disenchant. Cases based on owned cards before crafting.
    N = Non Golden – G = Golden – D = Dust – R = Reward for owning – PAD = profit after disenchant all copies (for max value)

    Case 1: 0 Cards = 0D; craft 1N (-400 +400R) PAD= 100D; craft 2N (-800 +800R) PAD= 200D; craft 1G (-1600 +1600R) PAD= 400D; craft 1N+1G (-2000 +2000R) PAD= 500D; craft 2G (-3200 +3200R) PAD= 800D
    *Highest profit 800D crafting 2G*

    Case 2: 1N = 400R+100=500PAD; craft 1N (-400 +800R) PAD= 600D; craft 1G (-1600 +2000R) PAD= 900D; craft 2G (-3200 +3200R) PAD= 900D
    *Highest profit 900D crafting 1 or 2G*

    Case 3: 2N = 800R+200=1000PAD; craft 1G (-1600 +2000R) PAD= 1000D; craft 2G (-3200 +3200R) PAD= 1000D
    *Highest profit 1000D crafting nothing, 1G or 2G*

    Case 4: 1G = 1600R+400=2000PAD; craft 1N (-400 +2000R) PAD= 2100D; craft 1G (-1600 +3200R) PAD= 2400D
    *Highest profit 2400D crafting 1G*

    Case 5: 1N 1G = 2000R+500=2500PAD; craft 1G (-1600 +3200) PAD= 2500D
    *Highest profit 2500D cratfing nothing or 1G*

    Case 6: 2G = 3200R+800=4000PAD
    *Highest profit 4000D crafting nothing…congrats you made it…*

    In overall crafting gold might be da wai ya kno?
    I hope i could enlighten some of you.

    • Math-Guru
      April 16, 2018 at 1:58 pm

      PS. the calculations above are for standart players who dont care about collecting and the wild mode. So max dust value is life.

      If you have 0 copies N and G then craft craft (got dust?)

      If you are a wild beast or a collector (you like those golden cards huh?) then you can have the golden copies for free since you get them refunded. The profit is then reduced to non golden copies you have IF you disenchant them (maybe you like those normal card too?). But you need a shi….p ton of dust to invest untill its payday so rather invest a day before patch roll out.

      If you are a wierdo (half collector half profit):
      1N : get 1 G have 400D – get 2 G have 100D (guess you disenchant the non golden right?!)
      2N : get 1 G have 500D (since you sell 1 N right?!) – get 2G have 200D (“….” right?!)
      1N 1G : 2000D or having 2G and 1700D
      1G : get the second G for freeeeee + 1600D
      2G : well get 3200D then disenchant the 2 G and get some fine non golden ones i guess? kappa

      Thank you for the article btw. I didn’t think about this before.
      RIP Acane Dust 2017-2018

  3. EvanQP
    April 10, 2018 at 7:28 am

    Hi, just wondering. I have a copy of normal ice block, what should I be doing?

    Craft 2 goldens still?

    • Oliver
      April 10, 2018 at 11:41 am

      You could craft 1 golden and then you’d be refunded the dust for both your non-golden and golden. Alternatively if you crafted 2 golden copies then you would only receive dust for them and not gain any dust from your normal copy.

      It’s probably worth crafting 2 goldens and then disenchanting them after getting the dust, so you end up gaining 800 dust.

      • EvanQP
        April 10, 2018 at 8:39 pm

        Thanks! turns out i have just enough dust too do so 🙂

        • Tuinkabouter
          April 11, 2018 at 4:41 am

          If you want to keep your original ice block, you can also craft just 1 golden copy, gaining 400 dust from original ice block and 400 dust from the golden copy you disenchant later. However if you’re gonna disenchant everything, it’s worth crafting both golden ones.

          • Kyle
            April 11, 2018 at 9:48 pm

            That’s not how it works though, you clearly don’t understand the article.

            Crafting a golden gets you nothing at all unless it’s a common, because you lose the 400 dust you would have gotten for the normal copy.

            Look at it this way. They craft 1 golden copy and keep their normal copy; they pay 1600, and they get back 1600 for gold +400 (for DE the gold)+ 400 for the normal+ 100 for DE the normal, meaning a total of 2500. Minus the 1600 cost, they made 900 dust

            If they craft two goldens, they get 1600 +1600 (for the two golds), +400 +400 (for DE the two golds) +100 for DE the normal, for a total of 4100. Minus 3200 cost to craft two golds, and you come up with, shocker, 900 dust. Exactly the same as if they hadn’t crafted the gold.

            The only case that crafting a gold is good is if you don’t have a regular copy. So if you have 1 regular, you want to craft 1 gold; if you have 2 regular, you don’t want to craft any gold because it’s a waste of time.

  4. Ironixv
    March 4, 2018 at 7:31 am

    Here’s an example for if you own 2 normal copies of Molten Giant:

    Do nothing: You will get 800 dust and 200 dust if you disenchant them, which equals… 1000 dust.
    Craft Golden: You would spend 3200 dust, you would get 3200 back and 1600 for disenchanting them. Then you could disenchant your normal copies for 200, which equals…. 1800 dust. (or 1600 if keeping the normal ones)

    so if i am correct having 2 normal ones allready (i want to keep them) i could craft 2 golden extras, get those refunded as it comes into play, AND disenchant the golden for an extra 800 dust.

    owning 2 normal copies and not caring if you have golden versions does give you 800 extra dust to play with. But you will need the 3200 dust to craft them anyway beforehand.

    also, if you do not own any copies of molten giant, you could better craft the golden ones. see if you like the card and then disenchant them in the future if you dont like them at all for the extra dust.

    if you would craft the normal ones and dont like them you would only gain 200 dust for disenchanting them.

    conclusion: its always better to craft golden versions if you own none + its also good to craft the golden version if you own the normal version already.

    please correct me if i am wrong, as i have 3260 dust right now and would like to either craft 2 golden moltens (i like them) or craft 2 regular ones and then craft the extra golden coldlight oracles for some extra dust, as i own the 2 normal copies of oracle already.

    • Diabolator
      March 4, 2018 at 5:00 pm

      You get back 800 dust for 2 copies of golden epics if you disenchant them not 1600 so you are wrong in your first example.

      • Ironixv
        March 5, 2018 at 9:45 am

        well thats where i miscalculated i guess, thx
        now i know i will just craft the golden giants and nothing more.
        as in the future they will give me more dust back if i would like to disenchant.

        • Tuinkabouter
          April 11, 2018 at 4:45 am

          Actually, if you craft golden ones and DE the old ones you gain 200 dust now, and 800 later if you like to disenchant them. If you keep the old ones, you get 800 dust now and nothing later, but that’s a lot better deal if you decide not to disenchant the golden ones.

  5. Ajeds
    March 2, 2018 at 7:35 pm

    Has blizzard said anything about whether or not molten giant’s dust refund would work differently since it isn’t only getting hall of famed but also reverted back to old 20 mana?

  6. Baboonie
    March 1, 2018 at 3:16 am

    How much Dust could I receive all together for Year of the Raven?
    If you own all of the cards listed as non-Golden: (4x Epics: 1,600 dust + 2x Rares: 200 dust = 1,800 dust)
    If you own all of the cards listed as Golden: (4x Epics: 6,400 dust + 2x Rares: 1,600 dust = 8,000 dust)

    For the Golden Cards, this is incorrect, right? 4x Epic Golden cards is 4 times 1600=6400 correct. But 2 times golden rares is 2 times 400= 800. So you can get a total of 6400 + 800 = 7200

    That is also way more logical because that is 4 times the 1800 you can get from the non-golden cards.

    • Ryuku
      March 1, 2018 at 5:52 am

      Golden rares cost 800 dust to craft, so 2x 800 = 1600

      • Baboonie
        March 1, 2018 at 9:15 am

        Ah I thought it was 400, but then it is correct. F2P player, lol

    • Adrian A
      March 2, 2018 at 5:41 pm

      I’m a new player and have a BIG question. Should i purchase the current Story (Night in Kazah just to dust the cards when the new e

      • James K
        March 3, 2018 at 8:31 pm

        Honestly, it’s not really worth it, you might as well spend the money on the new expansion packs to get cards you can actually use.

  7. He4moud
    February 28, 2018 at 1:34 pm

    What if i only have 1 non golden copy of the card? Should i craft the second copy and then when it moves to HoF just disenchant it?

  8. Darkknight187
    February 28, 2018 at 6:33 am

    “You get 400 dust back if you already have one of the Epic non-Golden cards.
    If you craft a golden Epic it will cost you 1,600 dust, which you then get back, and then you can disenchant it for 400 dust.
    Either way you are gaining 400 dust.”

    But if you disenchant it now I get 100 dust, Buy a golden and get addiotional 400 dust value.
    Am I right?
    So why not disenchant everything now and craft if in golden?

    • Stonekeep - Site Admin
      February 28, 2018 at 7:13 am

      Eh, it’s pretty simple.

      Let’s say that you have a regular copy right now.

      You disenchant it for +100 Dust. You craft Golden copy for 1,600 Dust (you’re at -1,500). You get a full refund for your Golden copy (you’re at +100). You disenchant your Golden copy for 400 (you’re at +500). You gain +500 Dust for doing that.

      And now, if you just keep your regular copy you get 400 Dust for it rotating and you disenchant it for 100, for a total of… exactly, +500 Dust.

      It’s literally the same thing. If you feel like doing it, of course you can, but you won’t gain anything that way.

      • Darkknight187
        February 28, 2018 at 7:29 am

        You are right. Thx

      • Luncb
        February 28, 2018 at 12:55 pm

        Hi.

        I got 1 normal Oracle, 2 normal ice blocks and any molten giants.
        What should I do about crafting for the oracle? Just 1 more normal or golden?
        The molten giant I´ll craft 2 golden and its fine.

        thx!

  9. Npu3paka
    February 27, 2018 at 11:52 pm

    Ok. I cannot understand. From What I see it is better to build always the gold version, because if we craft leg. epic, it costs 1600 dust. After the expansion it return us the money and later we disenchant it for another 800, which is our benefit.

    Why in the comments they say it is good to craft only the rare gold, for epic it is better only non-gold cards?

    • Stonekeep - Site Admin
      February 28, 2018 at 4:15 am

      If you don’t own those cards, it is ALWAYS better to craft the Golden version.

      If you ALREADY OWN the cards, crafting Golden version of any of them won’t make a difference. So if you have 2 copies of every of those cards, just leave it as it is.

      The only, although small, Dust gain is from crafting Golden Commons even if you own the regular version. But in this case, there are no Commons rotating to Hall of Fame, so it doesn’t matter.

  10. ์NuJi
    February 27, 2018 at 11:17 pm

    Very Good Summary!! everythings are clear and useful.
    However, I have 1 question about Molten Giant.
    It changes ability of card(even buff or nerf), should it disenchant with full dust or not?
    Thank you so much

    • Stonekeep - Site Admin
      February 28, 2018 at 4:12 am

      That’s actually a good question, but I don’t think it was answered yet. You might try asking that question during the Friday Q&A session with Ben Brode & Yong Woo 🙂

      • Nuji
        March 2, 2018 at 1:17 am

        Thank you so much,
        Where is Friday Q&A session with Ben Brode & Yong Woo?
        Do they live on Youtube or Twitch or another?

    • Evident
      February 28, 2018 at 8:42 am

      Stonekeep is right, we don’t know yet for sure, but I would imagine that you won’t get full dust for the disenchant because it’s a buff and not a nerf.

      • Advocaat
        February 28, 2018 at 9:16 am

        Isn’t this like the first time blizzard has buffed a card ever? So far I only remember the nerfs.

        • Evident
          March 4, 2018 at 1:01 pm

          The only other buff I can think of is technically Bane of Doom. It used to have only a select amount of Demons it could spawn, but they opened it up to all Demons.

      • Ironixv
        March 4, 2018 at 7:38 am

        its a nerf to holy wrath from paladin. look at the discription from holy wrath 😉

  11. hero
    February 27, 2018 at 7:00 pm

    This article and countless explanations about it… and still people won’t get it.

  12. Jason Mackenzie
    February 27, 2018 at 6:18 pm

    So i just craft 2 golden copies of each of the cards that are getting into HOF to get maximum value?

    • Stonekeep - Site Admin
      February 28, 2018 at 4:10 am

      You craft Golden Epics IF you don’t have the normal version already. If you have the normal version, crafting Golden ones won’t give you anything extra.

      • Amoraszune
        March 1, 2018 at 4:15 am

        Love your engagement here Stonekeep, thanks for explaining so clearly. However, technically, isn’t this SLIGHTLY incorrect?

        This is especially meant for people who collect, and want to upgrade to golden versions of the cards, but can also apply to people who want dust.

        – I own two normal Molten Giants already before announcement. I am at 0.
        – After announcement, I craft two golden Molten Giants, this costs me 3,200 dust. I am now down -3200, and have 4 Molten Giants, 2 normal and 2 golden.
        – After release is in effect, I get 3,200 dust refunded automatically, as I own 2 golden Molten Giants. The 2 normal ones are ignored. I am now even at 0, but I have 4 Molten Giants, 2 golden and 2 normal still.

        – If I do nothing, I gain nothing, still at 0, except I now have 2 golden and 2 normal Molten Giants, so two more than I had before.

        – If I dust the two normal Molten Giants, I get 100 x 2 = 200 dust. I am now up 200 dust, AND my Molten Giants in my collection are now golden instead of normal. Instead of costing me anything, I actually earned 200 dust on this transaction, and upgraded the Moltens to golden.

        – If I don’t care about golden cards, but DO care about collecting, I can actually dust the golden Moltens also. I still have the two normal ones, but will receive 400 X 2 = 800 dust for doing this. I now have EXACTLY the same thing I had before all of this started, but I am up 800 dust.

        – If I don’t care about collecting at all, I can dust all 4 Molten Giants, now netting me 100 x 2 + 400 x 2 = 1,000 dust. However, I don’t have any Molten Giants any more.

        Isn’t this correct? I may be thinking about this the wrong way, but I ma pretty sure this is correct. If I am, then it pays off to craft the golden versions of ALL cards, no matter if you have them or not, and then dust the ones you don’t want after release. Same applies to the other cards, especially Ice Block, but for Coldlight Oracle you stand to earn less as the value is lower for rares.

        However, one last disclaimer, this only works if you ALREADY have the dust to craft goldens. If you don’t, you need to wait a LONG time or spend money (by buying packs) to get enough dust – and that is not worth it. But for people like me who saved up dust for this specific purpose, you can upgrade your collection and earn a little dust on the side.

        • Albertoni
          March 4, 2018 at 11:42 am

          Quote:
          “– If I do nothing, I gain nothing, still at 0, except I now have 2 golden and 2 normal Molten Giants, so two more than I had before.”

          This is wrong, you gain 2×400 dust for the regular ones you have originally. So, if you are seeking for dust and you have regular version do nothing is the same output to dust gold ones after the transition. This rule applies to all rarity except for common.

          • Evident
            March 4, 2018 at 1:00 pm

            This is correct!

          • Amoraszune
            March 4, 2018 at 10:24 pm

            Thanks Albertoni & Evident. I see my mistake now.

            I think this trips a few people up – they do not consider the OPPORTUNITY COST of crafting VS not crafting. My calculations did not take into the account what you “earn” by not doing anything, which of course makes it different.

            For the record, I would like to craft golden versions of all HOF cards, so it is still a good time to do it if you want to upgrade your HOF cards to golden and have the dust! 😉 It will either cost you nothing NET or cost you much less than normal (and you will never be able to get them in packs in the future, I believe).

            Sorry again for the mistake!

  13. Bixxter
    February 27, 2018 at 4:37 pm

    I can’t some of these cards.. are any of them already gone ?

    • Bixxter
      February 27, 2018 at 4:39 pm

      I can’t craft* some of the cards

    • Stonekeep - Site Admin
      February 28, 2018 at 4:09 am

      No, they are not. You should be able to craft all of them. Could you make a screenshot of your issue and post it here?

  14. Evident
    February 27, 2018 at 1:13 pm

    Comments below this are from the Year of the Mammoth discussion, but might still answer some of your questions.

  15. Summer2K
    April 5, 2017 at 9:57 am

    I have a non golden salvanas and rag
    If I craft a golden rag, that means I have 1 golden and 1 non golden but i can only have the dust from the golden one right? 3200-3200=0
    My question is how much dust will get from the non golden one, 400 or 1600?

    • Evident
      April 5, 2017 at 10:47 am

      If you do nothing you’ll get 3,200 dust for both Ragnaros and Sylvanas (1,600 each). There’s no reason to craft the golden Ragnaros unless you want to have the golden version.

  16. Nicki118
    April 5, 2017 at 4:24 am

    Why are you saying in this article that: “Common cards are where the real dust gains are found!”
    If i am crafting a common card for 40 dust i can dienchant it for 5 and get the 40 back so i basicly made 5 dust profit, if it is a golden Common card i craft it for 400 and disenchant it for 50 si i made 50 dust + that is 1/8 from my investment in both cases.
    if am am crafting a Rare normal card i would make 20 dust profit from my incestment (100 dust) this is 1/5, if it is golden i gain 100 dust but this is only 1/8 from my (800 dust) investment.
    So if i didnt made a mistake the real dust gains are in legendary cards.
    I can craft one for 1600 dust and gain 400 dust profit if i disenchant them, this is 1/4 of my 1600 dust investment. But at the end the best anount of investment/profit i have i i craft a Golden legendary for 3200 and gain 1600 for disenchanting, this is 1/2 of my investment and definently the best way to spend your dust at first if you got this amount of dust. Pls correct me if i am wrong, sry for my bad english.
    Regards Nick

    • Evident
      April 5, 2017 at 7:55 am

      You are right on the dust counts if you DON’T own any of the cards, which is mentioned above.

      Here’s an example for if you own a normal copy of Sylvanas:

      Do nothing: You will get 1,600 dust and 400 dust if you disenchant her, which equals… 2,000 dust.
      Craft Golden: You would spend 3,200 dust, you would get 3,200 back and 1,600 for disenchanting her. Then you could disenchant your normal copy for 400, which equals…. 2,000 dust.

      The point is that you won’t gain anything if you already own a normal copy of the card. You could, however, upgrade your Sylvanas to a Golden copy and disenchant your old one for 400. Which gives you the same thing, but you won’t immediately have 1,600 dust to play with until you were to disenchant the Golden Sylvanas.

      • Nicki118
        April 5, 2017 at 8:30 am

        Ok ty!
        So if I got no of those two legendary I try to craft them in golden to get 1600 dust + if I disenchant them!?
        Nick

  17. zodzeh
    April 5, 2017 at 12:44 am

    Is this still possible because the expansion isn’t here yet, or is it not possible anymore because of the patch?

  18. AnouEY
    April 4, 2017 at 2:32 pm

    So i don’t own any of these cards but would have enough to craft a azure drake. Would i then make 100 dust profit by crafting it now and disentchanting it after the yotm?

    • Evident
      April 4, 2017 at 3:33 pm

      You would make a 20 dust profit. You create the card costing you 100 dust, you get your 100 dust back, you then disenchant the card and get 20 dust.

  19. f8thsux
    March 6, 2017 at 12:33 am

    So, at the end of the day, you can can earn a whopping 60 dust? xD

  20. FliP
    February 27, 2017 at 3:10 pm

    I don’t have a normal or golden rag, but I do have enough to craft a golden one. So if I’m going to keep a rag either way, then I should craft a golden one? I still go in 0 either which one I craft, right? Just that I get a “free” golden instead of a “free” normal one.

    • Evident
      February 27, 2017 at 8:11 pm

      Yes, craft the Golden one. You get it for free and you can disenchant it for 1,600 dust down the road if you desire.

  21. Angelo
    February 26, 2017 at 5:39 pm

    Hi there Great post!. I have a question because its a little bit unclear for me.

    I have Golden ragnaros, golden sylvannas, 1 golden ice lance and 1 golden poweroverwhelming. I crafted both golden ragnaros and sylvannas like a year ago because i love golden cards. my question is, should i craft the remaining cards golden because i want to keep them and sometimes i still play wild. So im talking about, 2 conceal, 1 ice lance, 1 power overwhelming, and 2 golden azure drakes. if i do that and keep the cards wont i be in negative dust value ?. Because how i see this if i craft 2 golden azure drakes which is 1600 dust and dust the normal ones i get 40. Then when the rotation hits i get 1600 dust back and i can keep the golden azure drakes which i like because i want the full collection anyway. Greetings from holland !

    • Evident
      February 27, 2017 at 9:39 am

      You wouldn’t be negative dust, you’d be at the same amount of dust. If you craft 2 Golden Azure Drakes, you’ll get the 1600 back and you can disenchant the normal ones like you said for 40 dust. So, here’s the issue. If you do nothing and keep your normal ones you will get 200 dust back, but you wouldn’t have the Golden versions. So, technically you wouldn’t get that extra 160 dust (you could always disenchant the Golden copies later to recover it), but if you really want the Golden copies this is your best chance to craft them.

    • Wolf
      March 17, 2017 at 3:26 pm

      YES

  22. ItsaRobbery
    February 23, 2017 at 4:56 pm

    Will we have a heads up before the Year of the Mammoth starts or will it just happen one day? Just wondering if we’ll know ahead when the deadline is so we know the last day to craft the cards. Thanks for the help!

    • Evident
      February 23, 2017 at 6:40 pm

      We should have a good idea before it starts, I wouldn’t expect it to just happen suddenly.

  23. Papk
    February 21, 2017 at 2:41 pm

    Hello admin, thanks for your article,
    I would like to ask you one question.

    Considering I want to keep non golden rag/sylv and the other cards which are cycling out to hall of fame…

    to improve dust gain,

    1) I should craft golden rag/ golden shylv,
    2) Take 3200 + 3200 after mammoth
    3) and then disenchant the golden ones for 1600 +1600 dust.

    So in this way I gain 3200 dust for free. Am I right ? Or havent I realized something ??

    • Evident
      February 21, 2017 at 2:47 pm

      If you already have non-Golden Rag/Sylvanas then you will already get 3,200 dust back. So, crafting the Golden versions will not add any extra dust.

      • Papk
        February 21, 2017 at 2:58 pm

        But I can disenchant golden ones after mammoth take a place do I ?
        Or they are automatically taken out from my collection ?

        • Evident
          February 21, 2017 at 4:15 pm

          You have both non-Golden Legendaries, right? Then you get 3,200 dust refunded.

          If you craft two Golden Legendaries, you spend 6,400. You get 6,400 dust refunded. Then you disenchant those two Golden Legendaries and get 3,200 dust. Which is the exact same thing if you did nothing.

          • Papk
            February 22, 2017 at 1:17 am

            Thanks you made yourself very clear.
            I was never good at math. That’s why I always miss lethal. ^_^
            Thanks for your answer and have a good day!!

  24. Dehira
    February 21, 2017 at 2:36 am

    Sorry for asking , just need to make sure ^_^
    So I should DE : Azure Drake, Sylvanas Windrunner, Ragnaros the Firelord, Power Overwhelming, Ice Lance, and Conceal before the year of mammoth and when does that launch?

    • Evident
      February 21, 2017 at 10:11 am

      No, don’t DE anything before Year of the Mammoth, you need to wait until you get your dust refund which happens AFTER Year of the Mammoth goes live. YotM will likely take place in April, but there’s no official word yet.

  25. Caniac11
    February 20, 2017 at 3:20 pm

    Great article, Evident! Here’s another spin I’d like to add: I have the extra dust to create the gold cards that I currently don’t have (I have 4 of the non legendary gold cards from packs) . I like the gold cards. By crafting the gold legendary cards, and the reimbursement of the 6400 in gold, I’ve gotten 2 free gold legendary cards. Plus I’ll get 800 dust for the 2 non-gold legendary cards I’ll dust. From my prospective, they’re giving me 800 dust to craft 2 gold legendary’s that I wanted anyway!! Can’t beat that!

    • Evident
      February 20, 2017 at 3:32 pm

      Thanks! Yep, if you’re into Golden cards this is a great way to get some on the cheap.

    • Chocubu
      February 21, 2017 at 1:49 am

      But you’ll get 3,200 dust if you don’t do anything. That’s a difference of 2,400 dust… Equivalent to 1.5 of ANY legendary card you would like to craft in the future! However, you did say you like the gold cards, so if you reckon they are worth 1,200 dust to upgrade each *wild* card to gold, then just do it… After all, your happiness/satisfaction is what’s most important! 🙂

  26. stav
    February 20, 2017 at 11:11 am

    Great job !
    I still dont have Sylvana so its nice to get the card for free.
    Do we know when the changes are coming?

    • Evident
      February 20, 2017 at 11:14 am

      Thanks, I would say most likely April sometime, but there’s nothing official yet.

  27. cwhazard
    February 20, 2017 at 8:07 am

    Are they giving out dust for just one copy of the legendaries regardless of how many copies you may have? For example, I have two copies of non-golden Sylvannas but I’ll only be getting 1600 dust correct? (not 1600 for each copy)?

  28. george
    February 19, 2017 at 7:48 am

    in my own case i have non-golden sylv only and lots of dust ,what do you think it would be better to do

    • Evident
      February 19, 2017 at 10:01 am

      If you don’t have Ragnaros you should craft a Golden version. You’ll be refunded the 3,200 dust and you can disenchant it and gain 1,600. With Sylvanas you can do nothing and just get 1,600 dust from it.

      • george
        February 19, 2017 at 12:57 pm

        also if i had the commons it is worth to make it golds.thank you for you help btw

        • Evident
          February 20, 2017 at 9:07 am

          It’s worth it if you want 60 extra dust!

          • george
            February 21, 2017 at 12:46 pm

            and one last thing since lately many listen .if i craft golden syl that i have and the golden azure that i also have in non-golden, i will take extra dust or it will be the same.thank you for your time

          • Evident
            February 21, 2017 at 2:48 pm

            If you already have non-Golden versions of those cards it will be the same.

  29. Dondo
    February 19, 2017 at 5:01 am

    Hey admin . I wanna ask . I already have all the common and legendaries except the sylv .. So how much dust do i get ? .. And what about if i want to craft all common into gold and let legendaries stay normal how much do i get ? I still confuse

    • Evident
      February 20, 2017 at 9:11 am

      If you have commons and one legendary you’d get 1,840 dust. If you have 2x Azure Drake (Rare) as well you’d get 2,040. If you craft all the Common cards Golden then you’d get 60 extra dust (after refunds). You should just craft Sylvanas if you don’t have it, and it should be Golden because you’ll get 1,600 dust once you disenchant it (400 for non-Golden).

  30. Jed
    February 19, 2017 at 12:14 am

    Quick question. Once the rotation hits, will we be able to DE adventure cards for full dust value? Started playing right after the introduction of standard. Thanks and keep up the good work. 🙂

    • Evident
      February 19, 2017 at 10:06 am

      No, you won’t get full dust value you for Adventure cards. No problem!

      • Jed
        February 19, 2017 at 10:35 am

        Good to know. I’ll just disenchant my other loe and brm cards to get sylvanas. Thanks again.

        • Evident
          February 19, 2017 at 11:03 am

          Well, I would wait until close to the rotation just in case something else is announced.

  31. Longshark
    February 18, 2017 at 8:33 pm

    I have all non golden cards and only plan to play standard.

    To maximize my dust should I?

    Craft golden rag and syl with 6400 dust and get:

    3200 (golden rag refund) + 3200 (golden syl refund) + 1600 (golden rag DE) + 1600 (golden syl DE) + 400 (regular rag DE) + 400 (regular syl DE)

    So invest 6400 to get 10400?

    • Evident
      February 18, 2017 at 8:44 pm

      There would be no reason to do it this way. If you do nothing you get a 3,200 dust refund for your non-Golden Legendaries, and you would get 800 dust from disenchanting them which makes 4,000 dust.

      You don’t gain 10,400 dust, because you have to spend 6,400 dust (to craft the Golden Legendaries), so you would end up gaining 4,000 dust which would be the same if you did nothing.

  32. FOXOTROM
    February 18, 2017 at 12:32 pm

    if i have already normal ragnaros and will craft golden one i get dust for golden rag? ..thx

  33. John Carry
    February 18, 2017 at 7:15 am

    Do you when they will refund the arcane dust? Also should i wait longer, or should i just craft the two legendary before it row out. thanks

    • Evident
      February 18, 2017 at 8:15 am

      You’ll receive the refund once Year of the Mammoth goes live, but we don’t have a concrete date for that yet. I would wait to craft anything until right before the rotation happens because you could potentially receive one of the cards in a pack and not have to craft it.

  34. khangkhanh
    February 18, 2017 at 1:11 am

    For those who are still confused, here is the example: I have a non golden version of Rag, I craft the golden one and disenchant the normal one, I only have 400 “free dust” and a golden Rag. If I do nothing, I get 1600 “free dust” and a normal Rag. In conclusion, I paid 1200 dust in order to upgrade my nornal Rag into golden Rag. Whether is it worth it or not depends on one opinion but for me, I dont feel like to spend dust on the golden version of cards that don’t generate other cards (If it’s Tirion or Jaraxxus I will definitely do it but Rag doesn’t give me more golden effect).

  35. JanBugatti
    February 17, 2017 at 3:32 pm

    I have all the cards. Is it worth crafting a Golden Ragnaros and Golden Sylvanas and then later disenchanting the regulars for 400 dust each? Essentially upgrading my legends to Golden ones (for free) and gaining 800 dust?

    • Evident
      February 18, 2017 at 8:21 am

      That’s really up to you and if you’d want to have the golden copies of those cards. If you don’t upgrade you’d get 3,200 dust, and have the non-Golden versions of the cards.

  36. SomGorsi
    February 17, 2017 at 2:04 pm

    Great JOB!!
    Thank You!

  37. Immolate
    February 17, 2017 at 12:57 pm

    I have a friend who does not have Ragnaros. He has enough dust to craft a normal legendary. Can he get a “free Ragnaros” by crafting a Ragnaros now and then receiving 1,600 dust when the next expansion comes? I’m pretty sure the answer is yes, but he wants to be sure before he does it.

    Thank you for this great guide!

    • Evident
      February 17, 2017 at 1:29 pm

      Yes, he would essentially get a free Ragnaros. No problem!

  38. Econatog
    February 17, 2017 at 12:13 pm

    Are the classic cards going to be removed from classic packs after they join the hall of fame?

    • Evident
      February 17, 2017 at 12:21 pm

      Yes they are being removed once the Hall of Fame goes live.

  39. Ed
    February 17, 2017 at 11:41 am

    In the case of the goblins and gnomes and naxxramas, that cards that we dont use in standar anymore, why they didnt do the same?
    Blizzard should return the dust

    • Evident
      February 17, 2017 at 11:47 am

      They aren’t doing it with any other expansion either, it would be THOUSANDS of dust returned. I find this to be pretty generous.

  40. Roxe
    February 17, 2017 at 11:34 am

    So if i have a normal n golden both sylv n rag i get double dust ?

    • Evident
      February 17, 2017 at 11:47 am

      If you have both normal and golden verions of Sylvanas and Ragnaros you would get 6,400 dust back for both Goldens and nothing for the non-Golden versions.

  41. Thief Bliggs
    February 17, 2017 at 11:34 am

    Wait I’m still confused. Wouldn’t crafting a golden Ragnaros cost you 3200 dust, get that back for the new year, and then disenchant the gold Ragnaros for 1600, netting a positive 1600?

    • Evident
      February 17, 2017 at 11:39 am

      Yes and this is explained above, but if you already have a non-Golden Ragnaros you are going to receive 1,600 dust anyway. If you don’t have either, then it’s best to craft a Golden one.

      • Thief Bliggs
        February 17, 2017 at 12:02 pm

        So why do you say crafting the golden common cards is the best way to gain dust? 1600 net gain from crafting a golden legendary versus 300 net gain if you craft the 6 common cards?

        • Evident
          February 17, 2017 at 12:43 pm

          I said crafting golden common cards is the best way to gain dust if you ALREADY OWN all of the cards in non-golden versions.

  42. lord1489
    February 17, 2017 at 11:06 am

    thanks a lot for all this information, keep doing the good work! no doubt this is the best HS site around

  43. Chocubu
    February 17, 2017 at 11:02 am

    You did all the brain work for us! Hahaha. Great post, mate!

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