Update (5-7-15): -1 Kezan Mystic, -1 Kel’thuzad, +2 Flamestrike
Update: FreiKuk’s Season 14 (Flamewaker) Tempo Mage
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Update (5-7-15): -1 Kezan Mystic, -1 Kel’thuzad, +2 Flamestrike
I find this deck pretty strong and I haven’t even put in a Dr. Boom, Sylvanas nor a Ragnaros yet. I have had to try out a few different things to make it feel right though, and I will add those three cards in as I get them.
I find that the Flamewakers respond really well to Arcane Missiles so have put these in, especially since it’s so cheap to cast AM with FW on same turn (especially if a Sorcerer’s Apprentice is out from round two).
I also find four cards to effectively make use of Mirror Entity too many, so I removed one Mad Scientist and replaced it with an Ironbeak Owl for emergencies and getting rid of Taunts on Lethal. (don’t play it unless you MUST to survive or will win by doing so – mulligan it away). The tempo of Mad Scientist is nice, but actually casting ME also gives you the spell bonus for FW and Mana Wyrms.
Finally, I don’t feel the Azure Drake is doing much for me. I like the card draw, but the spell power is pretty useless to me. I replaced one with a Kezan Mystic, which when useful can win you games, and when not, is only slightly worse than the AD.
I also really like Echo of Medivh (mulligan it away), especially when you have two FWs on the table, a nice Unstable Portal Creature or a nice creature stolen with ME.
My current setup brought me straight to rank 5 with only a handful of losses where I had a horrible draw or would have won myself the next round. It is:
2 X Arcane Missiles (will most likely trade in 1 for Dr. Boom)
2 X Mana Wyrm
2 X Flamecannon
2 X Frostbolt
2 X Unstable Portal
1 X Ironbeak Owl
1 X Mad Scientist
2 X Sorcerers Apprentice
2 X Mirror Entity
2 X Flamewaker
1 X Echo of Medivh
2 X Fireball
1 X Kezan Mystic
2 X Piloted Shredder
1 X Azure Drake (will most likely trade this in for Sylvanas Windrunner)
1 X Loatheb
2 X Sludge Belcher
1 X Flamestrike
1 X Kel’Thuzad (will most likely trade this in for Ragnaros, (or the Flamestrike)
Hope this helps a bit out there!
Nice deck, helpful for climbing ! Works well if you have +1 Kezan Mystic, -1 flamestrike.
I laddered to rank 10 using this deck fairly easy…then I just hit a wall.
good
First attempt at the deck – got completely ran over by Zoo Warlock (ranked , lvl 4). I then won a couple of games but facing Zoo and Face Hunter is hard (and this is like 60% of the match ups with the current meta). The deck is heavily relying on the snowball effect and if you miss to play a minion on turn 1 or 2 , it’s gg.
I’ve been having a lot of fun with this deck…
But I have some minor differences with my list,
Since I don’t have ragnaros I’ve been using Kel’Thuzad. Kel has some interesting interactions with Piloted Shredder and the Dr. Boom’s Boom bots. And the other difference is I use an Echo of Medivh over 1x Flamestrike. Haven’t really used the echo enough to say much about it, but I really wanted to use one 🙂
So in conclusion, my list has the following differences:
-1 Ragnaros
-1 Flamestrike
+1 Kel’Thuzad
+1 Echo of Medivh
I’m Running something like this
2 Mirror Image
2 Arcane Missle
2 Flame Cannon
2 Frostbolt
2 Sorcerer’s Apprentice
2 Arcane Intellect
2 Flamewaker
2 Fireball
2 Violet Student
2 Polymorph
2 Antique Healbot
2 Azure Drake
1 Emperor Thaurissan
2 Flamestrike
1 Dr. Boom
1 Archmage Antonidas
1 Ysera
The Cards not Very Impressed with are The Apprenice mainly the Teacher could be something else same goes for the Emperor
Found myself getting beaten by those darn face hunters.
Removed: 2 Sorcerer’s Apprentice and 1 Flamecannon.
Added: 1 Counterspell, 1 Archmage Thalnos and 1 Arcane Intellect
I like the extra draws for answers to their swarm, and the Counterspell to stop “Summon Companion” and “Release the Hounds”
Before 2nd flamestrike there was Kel Thuzad but there were lot of times where i felt it was cluncky , if u don’t have a board he’s not a big threat usually (He’s insane with sludge belcher in play) ….If you wanna go over the top try Ysera , for 1 more mana then Kel it gives you a lot more options for the late game and even more sweepers ..Played this deck for like 300 games or more on ladder , i really enjoyed it , must love FreiKuk!
The problem with ysera is that it doesn’t do anything the turn you play it. I have won with Kel many times just by playing it at the time my mid game minions start dying and it becomes a huge tempo swing.
Its a great deck. I have been using it a lot lately and I have actually been trying to decide who to replace to add another high cost minion. I feel a lot of time I control the board, but with little damage on board. It turns into a top deck fight, which of course you have an advantage against most decks using a tempo deck and with the board control.
I think a sorcerer’s apprentice could be dropped as they seem way to easy to be removed and many times i just play a spell over her. I am thinking that maybe Sneeds or Alexstraza may be very helpful. Anyone have any thoughts?
So, looking at this and testing it the 5+ drops feel really clunky on ladder. I tried a more low to the ground build that caps at 5 cost and it seems to run much better. The only reason you have to go bigger really are decks like Patron Warrior, which was already a miserable matchup.
I’ve been bashing my head into the wall trying to build something with a lower curve. What’s your list?
Replace dr. boom w?
Replace flamewalker w? LOL
It’s a cancer deck
It’s not cancer if it doesn’t hurt anyone. This deck is garbage and I love facing it. Zoo, Paladin, Face Hunter destroy this deck. Don’t waste your time with it.
Can you please give me some suggestions in muligan?
Generally?
Against face hunter?
Against controll?
Thanks!
replace KT with ?
Flamestrike or ice block
Replaced sylvannas with emperor
Keep playing this deck guys.
Everyone else that doesn’t play it, will appreciate free wins.
0 Draw, 0 Capacity to regain board control.
So either have a lucky start or gl winning a game.
I went 11-0 when i first made this deck… you dont need card draw it slows down the deck and it has good enough mana curve
its called tempo because it is supposed to snowball it doesnt need card draw and of ocurse it looses to a board wipe because that makes them loose tempo wich is the decks weakness.
‘0 capacity to regain board control’
?It has two flame strikes, runs the ME tech with scientists, 2 flame cannons, 2 fireballs, and a sylvanas. How does that constitute as 0 board control?
Yeah, essentially this is a great deck if you get at least near-perfect draw; otherwise you’re scrambling for answers the deck just doesn’t have. ME is a well-known gimmick that people just make sure to put down a weak minion first for; there’s a lot of luck involved in HS, but this relies on that exclusively. Maybe this is better near legend ranks, but it’s often far too weak to deal with the onslaught of 25-5 owl/aggro/etc. If you don’t get board control immediately, you’re done; there is no real catch-up.
I understand it’s tempo, but it’s just far too unreliable to run at the moment while climbing the ladder.
replace ragnaros?
I guess you could put a flamestrike in
this deck actually pretty fun, took out the KT for Thaurrisan.
thaurrisan isnt really that good in tempo since you usally have a pretty empty hand
Replaced 1 sorcerers apprentice with a flamestrike. Worked out pretty well.
its a nice idea