Tempo Rogue Deck List Guide – Witchwood – May 2018

Class: Rogue - Format: Raven - Type: Tempo - Style: Meta Deck - Meta Deck: Tempo Rogue

Our  Tempo Rogue deck list guide for The Witchwood expansion will teach you how to play this aggressive Rogue list. This Tempo Rogue guide includes Mulligans, Gameplay Strategy, Card Substitutions, and Combos/Synergies!

Note on the deck list (April 2018): I expect many of you to want to play with Tess Greymane, but most of the high win rate Tempo Rogue decks in the early The Witchwood meta run The Lich King instead or do not run any eight-mana cards. Alas, you can easily modify the deck to include Tess, if you’d rather explore some new cards. Simply replace The Lich King with Tess Greymane and find a way to include two copies of Hallucination into the deck, for example by cutting one Spellbreaker and one Cobalt Scalebane.

Introduction to Tempo Rogue

Tempo Rogue is an aggressive Rogue deck. It is not a pure face deck, but rather seeks to establish board control, push damage with minions, and optionally end the game with a burst finish of up to 20 points of damage, but more often closer to 10 points of damage.

Tempo Rogue became a top tier deck during Knights of the Frozen Throne in mid-2017 thanks to the combined power of Prince Keleseth, Patches the Pirate, and Shadowstep – turns out, making all of your minions bigger by +1/+1 or even +2/+2 actually gives you a huge advantage in fighting for board control, and pulling a charging, buffed-up Patches from your deck in the early game really underlines the point.

When Patches was nerfed – it lost Charge – Tempo Rogue fell in popularity. However, with the Standard rotation and The Witchwood expansion in April 2018, Tempo Rogue is looking to get back into action once again. The Witchwood provides a number of new cards that have potential in the archetype, such as Blink FoxHench-Clan ThugMarsh Drake, and Tess Greymane, and Tempo Rogue is looking for a resurgence with these new tools.

Deck List

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Tempo Rogue Card Choices

There are couple of key questions to answer when building a Tempo Rogue deck:

First, the Prince Keleseth option. Rogue is the class that can support Keleseth the best, thanks to Shadowstep being able to return him back to your hand for another round of buffs. Alas, good players sometimes delay replaying Keleseth for a turn to have a zero-cost Prince Keleseth in hand ready to activate a combo, such as SI:7 Agent or Elven Minstrel, or opt to not go for double buffs altogether if they have other cards they will rather bounce: it is possible to run out of steam after playing Keleseth, unless you also have an Elven Minstrel available for a refill, so that Shadowstep may be more valuable on some other card.

Keleseth is especially strong if games go long, as it provides you with incremental value every turn. Keleseth is the standard option for Tempo Rogue decks, as the entire archetype climbed to the top thanks to the card. However, there is also another way. Using Keleseth means that you cannot use any other two-mana cards in the deck, and sometimes that is too hefty of a price to pay. The alternative line of thinking focuses on faster games and uses Eviscerate and Sap to be able to push damage faster and more reliably.

Second, there is the question of how burgle do you want to go? The new cards in The Witchwood promote Burgle Rogue as an archetype, and Tempo Rogue can be home to a medium-sized burgle package, not looking to go for a really long game, but trying to gain some surprises from cards from the opponent’s class. The burgle cards that fit in the archetype are HallucinationBlink FoxFace Collector, and Tess Greymane.

The main attraction of the burgle package in Tempo Rogue is Tess Greymane: Tess is a mixture of Yogg-Saron and N’Zoth, able to cast some spells and resummon a board of minions in the late game for one more big push towards victory. But what is the price of including Tess?

  • Hallucination is the best burgle card, as it is a Discover effect. You are almost guaranteed to get something useful from Hallucination, because you get to choose from three options. However, a one-mana spell that does nothing immediately is low tempo. It may be saved by the fact that it only costs one mana, enabling it to easily activate Combo effects when played.
  • Blink Fox is not quite as reliable as a burgle card, as it gives you a random card, which may or may not be useful in the situation you play the card in. However, Blink Fox is much easier to fit in a Tempo Rogue deck, because a three-mana 3/3 that gives you additional resources is both decent tempo and good value.
  • Face Collector goes deeper into the value end of the spectrum. A mere 2/2 minion for three mana, it is unable to trade up and can easily be traded into by cheaper minions. You need to be looking for a fairly long game to make good use of Face Collector.

Therefore, there are multiple potential packages here. Just grab everything, and you’re set for some long games at the expense of a fair bit of tempo. Grab HallucinationBlink Fox, and Tess Greymane, and you have a compromise package that can give you a Tess swing without compromising too much tempo. Finally, you can simply not take the burgle road at all, in which case you may still want to use Blink Fox as a stand-alone card, or even cut that one too for more tempo.

A couple of notes on Tess’s ability:

  • If you switch your Hero – for example, by acquiring and playing a Hero Card from another class – your class becomes that class, and Tess will replay your Rogue cards instead of your opponent’s class cards.
  • Cards from The Lich King are considered Death Knight class cards, and Tess will replay them. Cards from Ysera are neutral, and Tess will not replay them.

This brings us to another choice at the top of the Tempo Rogue curve: The Lich King. Some Tempo Rogue builds do not go above five mana at all, but the ones that do generally make the choice between Tess Greymane and The Lich King, both very potent late-game cards. The Lich King is more defense-oriented, whereas Tess can provide more value for an attack, so there are some meta considerations involved in making the choice. Some people even go for both, although that makes the deck a bit top-heavy.

The above are the main choices when building a Tempo Rogue. The rest of the deck comes together much more easily, even though some minor choices still remain.

Tempo Rogue core cards:

  • Backstab provides the deck with an early answer to a minion and a zero-cost Combo effect activator at any point during the game.
  • Shadowstep provides access to multiple uses of a Battlecry effect, most famously Prince Keleseth, but also SI:7 AgentElven MinstrelBlink Fox, or Vilespine Slayer. It can also provide burst damage with Southsea Deckhand or Leeroy Jenkins. Some lists even combine it with Lifedrinker for some damage and healing.
  • Fire Fly is simply one of the best one-drops in the game. It can help you activate combos and also serves as a pseudo two-drop if you cannot find your Keleseth.
  • Edwin VanCleef is more famous from Miracle Rogue, where he can grow to a huge size, but he can still be a threat in Tempo Rogue as well.
  • Hench-Clan Thug is a new card from The Witchwood. While it is a Neutral minion, it is a perfect fit to practically all Rogue decks, as Rogue usually wants to dagger up on turn two and can follow that up with Hench-Clan Thug and an attack on turn three to get a 4/4 with potential to grow on the board.
  • Elven Minstrel is a key card draw tool, allowing you to look for more minions to play.
  • Saronite Chain Gang is a strong defensive Taunt minion with a big upside when combined with the effect from Prince Keleseth.
  • Vilespine Slayer is an effective hard removal minion that destroys a minion while giving you a decent body on the board at the same time.
  • Leeroy Jenkins is a big finisher to end the game. When combined with Shadowstep and two copies Cold Blood, it can deliver up to 20 points of damage for ten mana. Tempo Rogue does not usually hold onto its cards for such a big combo though, but rather uses some of them earlier in the game and goes for a smaller burst finish in the end.

Tempo Rogue optional cards:

  • Argent Squire: While some Tempo Rogue builds use only one one-drop (Fire Fly), some builds want to get on the board early a little more reliably, and Argent Squire is a good option for that.
  • Southsea Deckhand: Another potential one-drop with a late-game burst finish option.
  • Glacial Shard: Able to prevent the opponent or their minion from attacking, thus allowing you to choose trades or push face damage.
  • Cold Blood: Additional damage that can be used for trades, for a lethal finisher, or for additional face damage in the early game. A flexible tool that has many uses throughout the game.
  • Sonya Shadowdancer: Powerful card that can give you additional resources, especially some additional 1/1 copies of those great Battlecry minions that are plentiful in the deck.
  • Tar Creeper: A strong defensive minion. Especially good if you also run Cold Blood, as then you have the option to turn it into an offensive threat as well or use it to protect a weaker minion that has been buffed.
  • Marsh Drake: A strong tempo play on turn three that has good synergy with the Rogue Hero Power, as you can dagger down the Poisonous minion it summons for the opponent. However, if you cannot kill the minion, for example if there is a Taunt minion in the way, Marsh Drake is much less impressive. Hench-Clan Thug is simply stronger in every scenario, but Drake is an option if you need more three-drops.
  • Vicious Fledgling: A growing minion that can win games if unanswered. Alas, it is usually fairly easily answered, as Tempo Rogue does not gain full board control that easily early on.
  • Lifedrinker: Not only a Shaman combo card, Lifedrinker can also turn aggressive matchups around by dealing damage and healing at the same time.
  • Cobalt Scalebane: A strong-statted dragon that buffs your other minions. Especially sweet with Tar Creeper.

Tempo Rogue tech cards:

  • Spellbreaker: Should this be part of the core? Be that as it may, Spellbreaker is used a lot in the current meta, and it is the Silence effect of choice for Tempo Rogue.
  • Fan of Knives: More of a Miracle Rogue card, but can be teched into Tempo Rogue to deal with decks such as Baku Odd Paladin that swarm the board with one-health minions.

Tempo Rogue Mulligan Strategy & Guide

VS Fast Decks

Higher Priority (Keep every time)

Lower Priority (Keep only if certain conditions are met)

VS Slow Decks

Higher Priority (Keep every time)

Lower Priority (Keep only if certain conditions are met)

Tempo Rogue Win Rates

Winrates provided by Metastats

Tempo Rogue Play Strategy

Tempo Rogue is aggressive, but it is not a face deck. You’re looking to gain board control and then use your minions to push face damage.

However, thanks to the burst combos from Shadowstep, Cold Blood, Southsea Deckhand, and Leeroy Jenkins, you may have considerable reach available in the mid-to-late game, and you should always be looking for opportunities to push face damage instead of trading if that allows you to set up lethal from hand.

VS Aggro Decks

Most of the time, you are the control deck against aggro decks. However, there are two peculiarities to playing Tempo Rogue against aggro:

  • You mostly cannot heal (unless you have Lifedrinker in the deck or can get healing from the opponent’s class)
  • You have significant reach with some hands

What these mean is that you also need to set up a clock on the opponent, if they have a reliable source of damage. Hunter and Mage, for example, will eventually simply kill you if you stall indefinitely. Their Hero Power and spells make that inevitable. Against Paladin things can be different, because they generally have only a little damage from hand, and if you control the board, you are relatively safe.

The question is, how do you set the aggro deck on a clock? Early Edwin VanCleef or Hench-Clan Thug can provide that damage, but they are of no use if you lose the entire board before you can play them. Therefore, you need both some early game and a threat to start pushing back. In the right situation, you can then even race the aggro deck – no or only little trading – and finish first.

The key is to recognize how much damage you can deal and how much damage the opponent can deal. Taunt minions are usually very important in aggro matchups, as they allow you to set up trades better and push more face damage while making smart trades. In general, if the aggro deck has a lot of reach from hand, you need to look for opportunities to race. If the aggro deck is very board-reliant, a defensive board control strategy is more viable.

VS Control Decks

Against control decks, you are the beatdown. They will try to stop you, and you will try to kill them.

Look for your early power plays: Prince Keleseth, Hench-Clan Thug, and Edwin VanCleef. They allow you to pressure the control deck and force removal.

Do not go all-in on the board: Keep in mind the type of board clears the opponent has, such as three points of area-of-effect damage from Priest’s Duskbreaker or Warlock’s Hellfire, and the Warlock’s 1-2-3 math puzzle that is Defile. Try to set up boards that are awkward to clear and have a plan on how to refill if your board ends up getting wiped. You have a lot of value in the deck, you do not have to win with your first board. Keep up the pressure, make the control player uncomfortable, and force out that removal.

Do not be afraid to use Cold Blood early if the minion may survive to hit with it twice – it can end up dealing more damage than if saved for a burst finish and also force the opponent to use removal while your board is not that big yet and is easily replaceable.

Tempo Rogue Card Substitutions

You can expect a meta Tempo Rogue deck to cost around 7,000 to 10,000 dust. However, Tempo Rogue has very few mandatory expensive cards, so it is possible to play it on a budget as well.

  • Vilespine Slayer – The most important expensive card in the deck. Hard removal combined with a body on the board is such a huge tempo swing, I would not advise to play the deck without Vilespines. You can go for Assassinate or Plague Scientist, but your win rate will suffer and Vilespine Slayer should be your first craft for the archetype.
  • Prince Keleseth – A huge power play, but can nonetheless make room for a faster build that runs Eviscerate and Sap. Keleseth is still one of the defining cards of the archetype, and one of the first cards to craft for it.
  • Edwin VanCleef and Sonya Shadowdancer – Can replace each other, for a budget option you can go for Vicious Fledgling.
  • Leeroy Jenkins – Use Southsea Deckhand, or if you already have them in the list, strengthen another area of the deck instead of looking for a direct replacement.
  • The Lich King and Tess Greymane – Can replace each other. You also want Hallucinations with Tess, but not with Lich King. If you have neither, end your curve at five mana and strengthen your early game, do not look for a direct replacement.

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191 Comments

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  1. Brb
    May 11, 2018 at 8:04 am

    I be playing a pick pokect version, is more concisten that kels, the only problen is the aggro, but have good vs cube and spifull

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  2. Epyon
    April 18, 2018 at 3:12 pm

    Drop Lich king/ Tess Put in Sonya to replace them. Play kaleseth 5 times, win games. gg no re.

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  3. DestinyXXX
    April 16, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    Dragonfire potion immunity rotated out and it was one of the main point of strenght of the 5-mana dragon (especially in raza era). Is Cobalt Scalebane still the best 5-mana drop?

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    • Old Guardian - Author
      April 17, 2018 at 2:41 am

      Looking at the statistics of Tempo Rogue decks, yes, Cobalt Scalebane is the five-drop of choice of almost all of the top lists.

      In the 30 best-performing lists right now, Cobalt Scalebane is in 15 of them, Fungalmancer is in 3, and 12 run no 5-drops other than Vilespine Slayer and Leeroy Jenkins, which are not real 5-drops at all but serve a different purpose. Furthermore, the use of Scalebane is most common near the top.

      The buff effect to make your weaker minions major threats is still strong. If anything, the alternative is to skip 5-drops altogether and use faster cards.

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  4. ATinyHorse
    April 16, 2018 at 7:24 pm

    This is the first deck that can run so many interchangable cards and still have a similar winrate. Ez I knew Tess would pull through.

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    • Old Guardian - Author
      April 17, 2018 at 2:45 am

      We are still early in the meta and it will take time for builds to stabilize. Tess is losing popularity in Tempo Rogue, being replaced by The Lich King or simply a faster build altogether. I still think Tess has a chance to pull through, and I’d expect people to want to play with new cards and accept a small performance hit for that, but Tess’s long-term prospects are uncertain.

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    • Old Guardian - Author
      April 17, 2018 at 2:47 am

      Forgot to add that while I chose to feature a Lich King list in the guide – as according to all statistics it is somewhat better – I mostly played with a Tess list myself, and did just fine.

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      • MrTea
        April 17, 2018 at 6:22 am

        What did you end up cutting to make room for Hallucination? I think I got rid of a cold blood and Spellbreaker? Or would you got rid of Scalabane first? I’ll have to play around with it.

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        • Old Guardian - Author
          April 17, 2018 at 6:41 am

          Cold Blood – Spellbreaker – Cobalt Scalebane are the cards I’ve been switching around. I’m still not sure. I changed the recommendation for the guide multiple times during writing, too. Depends on the meta too whether you need two Spellbreakers. I’m starting to lean towards just cutting Scalebanes for Hallucinations for Tess.

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          • MrTea
            April 17, 2018 at 7:37 am

            Old Guardian, thanks for the response! Scalebanes seem to be the odd dragon out. The potential of Tess (and Face Collector!?!?) is just too fun to pass up. Face Collector is a little greedy, but I really think a little Tess package can’t hurt too much.

  5. Jarren
    April 13, 2018 at 2:05 pm

    while i love playing rogues and really enjoyed builds in previous expansions this just seems way too slow .. setting up tess takes way too much time its a bit too random by the time i get any tempo up i already have the whole board swarming with voidlords or 5/7 silver recruits.. then again i aint no pro

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  6. Stompy
    April 13, 2018 at 11:39 am

    Face collector and tess make tempo rouge worse because your losing tempo playing face collector and losing tempo by setting up tess.

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  7. SneakySamX
    April 13, 2018 at 1:59 am

    The version with Keleseth is 10000 times more consistent. You can’t rely on RNG on ladder.

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    • Tovarnik
      April 13, 2018 at 6:24 am

      You mean without Keleseth?

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      • GameDice
        April 13, 2018 at 7:06 am

        I’m confidant the it was said correctly. The version with Keleseth doesn’t use the random card generation.

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        • Tovarnik
          April 13, 2018 at 7:38 am

          How about random number generator

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  8. Cruxkid
    April 2, 2018 at 11:35 pm

    This deck needs a massive overhaul since the latest patch

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  9. HappyDucky
    February 6, 2018 at 4:38 pm

    “Featuring double Cold Bloods”…. I see no Cold Blood anywhere.
    The guide also mentions Shaku and Xaril, and they are both not on the list.

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  10. NasattoJulio
    February 1, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    Is this deck viable without Swashburglar and Cairne? Besides those I only need too craft Vilespine and Elven Minstrel… Is it worth taking into account that some things are going to rotate/get nerfed?

    Thankssssss

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  11. MonkFunk
    January 21, 2018 at 4:43 pm

    What would you do turn two if you have kelseth but no shadowsteps? Do you just play kelseth or wait for a shadowstep?

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    • Luiz Henrique Maruta Kim
      January 22, 2018 at 4:57 pm

      Normally you don’t get the perfect start of prince and shadowstep, so playing only prince is already a very big early advantage (but of course, if you have shadowstep use it with him)

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    • PaRtY
      February 16, 2018 at 3:36 pm

      You can do what you want, although you WOULD get bigger minions if you waited for the Shadowstep. But, as I said earlier, you can do what you want.

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  12. Cptmeatballz
    January 21, 2018 at 10:26 am

    I don’t wanna craft soon-to-be-out-of-rotation legends, i.e. Patches. Is this deck still viable without it? If so, what replacement?

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    • Kruunch
      January 26, 2018 at 3:22 pm

      You can put in a second South Sea Deckhand instead of Patches. Patches is nice but not essential to the deck’s success. If you happen to have it, Sonya Shadowdancer fits really nice into this deck as well.

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  13. Mrlols1
    January 17, 2018 at 9:56 am

    i dont have prince and leeroy so i have to chose 1 to craft which 1 u suggest me to craft first ?

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    • Zinogre
      January 18, 2018 at 12:27 am

      Prince first. Leeroy can be replaced by Reckless Rocketeer

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      • Vaggelis Papadakis
        January 22, 2018 at 5:11 am

        leroy of the poor people,still does the job i guess 🙂

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    • Mr.Joiz
      January 29, 2018 at 5:26 am

      Prince first bro

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      • Mr.Joiz
        January 29, 2018 at 5:27 am

        you can replace rockless it’s cost 6 mana 5/2

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    • PaRtY
      February 16, 2018 at 3:39 pm

      Prince. Most definitely Prince. Leeroy can be replaced by a 6 mana 5/2 called Reckless Rocketeer.

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  14. SneakySam
    January 8, 2018 at 9:10 am

    If you are having problems with warlocks, try StrifeCro’s version of the deck (2x Faldorei Strider, 2x Spellbreaker). I hit legend for the first time with it last season. Double Spellbreaker is fundamental in almost every match up at the moment.

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    • Kruunch
      January 26, 2018 at 3:24 pm

      Agreed, although I find Ironbeak Owl a little more forgiving mana-wise (easier to get out and easier to shadow step if needed).

      Reply
  15. DrSimps
    January 7, 2018 at 7:42 pm

    What about replacing Cairne with Lich King? I’ve seen that a couple times.

    This deck I feel does well against aggro druid, pally, and hunter but man it is tough against Priest and Warlock. I feel like I can beat Priest if I curve well but you really have to win by almost Turn 6 against warlock cause they have so much stupid healing and taunts.

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  16. thirsty
    January 6, 2018 at 3:52 pm

    This deck is being destroyed in the current meta, warlocks and priest run the ladder and just shut down this deck. Any ideas for changes?

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    • Blacklink3r
      January 7, 2018 at 11:46 am

      I’m at rank 3 with another version of this deck. I’ll send you the code.

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      • H3ndrx
        January 7, 2018 at 1:41 pm

        Yeah, I have the same problem… 🙁

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  17. Vovi
    December 31, 2017 at 2:08 pm

    I got to legendary first time ever with this deck, really nice guide and deck Thank you.

    Reply
  18. DigDug
    December 28, 2017 at 10:03 am

    This deck sucks against the current meta. It has no answer to void lord, paladins board fills, or hunter’s wolf summon. It cannot maintain board control. Run it and enjoy sucking.

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    • Ross Kelly
      December 28, 2017 at 4:19 pm

      Get some Spellbreakers in there then

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    • Gamebrain1
      December 28, 2017 at 5:15 pm

      Is that why Machamp got Rank 1 Legend with it 2 days ago? wow, the rank 1 Legend player must suck.

      Reply
  19. Shacksta
    December 27, 2017 at 4:19 am

    This is one of the decks I love to play, but I don’t have swashburglers. What should I replace them with ?

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    • Shacksta
      December 27, 2017 at 4:24 am

      Oh, forgot one thing, there was a little deck named Higher top end, a variaton of this deck, could I include Lich King somewhere in this ” aggro ” deck ?

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      • hain
        December 27, 2017 at 4:53 am

        Yes u can, instead of cairne

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    • Chalupa
      December 28, 2017 at 1:33 am

      you can replace them with a “delete deck” button 🙂

      Reply
  20. ATinyHorse
    December 26, 2017 at 10:44 am

    Aaaannnnddd Sonya has already been cut. Feels bad.

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  21. Spyder9899
    December 16, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    Is it established that Sonya is better in this deck than Cairne? Or still feeling it out? Trying to figure out if I should craft her or not.

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  22. lol
    December 15, 2017 at 5:15 am

    finally in tier 2 or below like where it belongs. been trash since the gimmicky start

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    • Spyder9899
      December 16, 2017 at 12:57 am

      It’s not tier 2. And no matter, you’re still going to be rage quitting to it.

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    • ATinyHorse
      December 18, 2017 at 7:11 am

      “finally in tier 2”
      In tier 1.

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  23. k4w4noob
    December 13, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    Any Alternatives for Sonya?

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    • Spyder9899
      December 13, 2017 at 3:08 pm

      That spots changed quite a bit. I still use Cairne. But it’s also had Shaku or Xaril. Those are all legendaries themselfs. A cheaper card could be a second tar creeper and sometimes I’ve even seen plague scientist.

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  24. Min Htet
    December 12, 2017 at 8:39 am

    Can I replace two Corridor Creepers with Fal’dorei Strider?What is the replacement for one Vinespine Slayer and one Southsea Captain?I’m a f2p player.So I couldn’t craft many epic cards.

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    • Spyder9899
      December 12, 2017 at 10:44 am

      If you have Leeroy, you can go back to what tempo rouge was running before and add two Cold Bloods. A second tar creeper can substitute for the captain. But it would be worth crafting a second vilespine. That card will go in just about any rouge deck. It’s that good.

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  25. Spyder9899
    December 10, 2017 at 12:03 pm

    I love the new additions to the deck. I was playing with eleven minstrel the first day in this deck. Actual card draw helps so much in the later game when you are running out of steam (instead of random card generators).
    And wow, corridor creeper is great in this deck too. A 5/5 minion as a cheep combo activator!

    I still keep cairns instead of the new rogue legendary. Also, I didn’t really like two cold bloods with Leroy. They can make for some awkward hands. I think replacing cold bloods for the new cards have made this deck a lot stronger.

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  26. BYMYSIDEHUNTER
    December 3, 2017 at 7:36 pm

    So… i have almost the whole deck but i don’t have patches or south sea captain, or really any legends other than keleseth will the deck still be good?

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    • Logic
      December 4, 2017 at 2:11 am

      >almost has the full deck list
      >23/30 cards

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    • Spyder9899
      December 11, 2017 at 8:57 pm

      Try the elemental version.

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      • Jason
        December 23, 2017 at 3:18 pm

        The elemental version is great. I ran it until I could get the legendaries for the regular list. I still play it from time to time because I still feel like it’s a solid choice.

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  27. help yourself
    December 1, 2017 at 3:11 pm

    no matter which version, trash deck. everyone is playing shit that counters it.
    too gimmicky and specific. if you think this is build to win, don’t.

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    • Brenry
      December 2, 2017 at 1:34 pm

      Have to agree with “help yourself”‘s comment. Blew alot of dust to construct Edwin and Shaku. Been on a massive lose streak since. It’s sitting on cards so long to build up a combo for Edwin he goes down fast, Shaku rarely lasts a turn or 2 him self. All this time is wasted on opponent playing nice hands. Barnes and Carine seem equally useless.

      All of those 1 point spells turns out to just be cannon fodder by the other guy imo. Replacing all these duplicate [2]’s with [1]’s and putting more variety back into my own custom deck is ramping up my wins again. Following these cookie cutter guides just makes one look like a tool by people and ya get steamrolled.

      Some good ones to try in your own non-cookie cutter deck could be a couple Mimic Pods, couple of Shadow Strikes, and definately Skulking Geist all which combat situations. Even throwing it maybe an Infested Tauren to block an enemy (no emphasis on [2] Saronite Chain Gangs?), something, anything is better on this heavy reliance on luck the pirates can survive long enough before you are overwhelmed before Vilepine Slayer and Cobalt Scalebane can start taking over. The low end cards are way better off combo’ing Slayer and Cobalt Scalebane.

      :other thoughts. wish I could get a refund on VanCleef and Shaku 🙁

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      • Spyder9899
        December 10, 2017 at 1:28 am

        Refund on VanCleef?! VanCleef is an All star. A staple of rogue. That card is able to win you games all by himself. Shaku, maybe. But don’t worry about VanCleef. And also, this is a great deck. The rise in zoo has made it a bit harder, but you can climb with this deck.

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        • help yourself
          December 15, 2017 at 5:31 am

          your mean get ckblocked or get insta gibbed by anything? “but bait out removal” never enough cards to do that shit. van cleef doesn’t win shat.
          this trash also loses to face hunter lol

          Reply
          • Foxlebt
            December 16, 2017 at 11:41 pm

            I think you’re just incompetent at piloting this deck or really unlucky, I’ve went from Rank 16 to Rank 4 with this deck in a matter of 2 days

    • Brenry
      December 2, 2017 at 9:21 pm

      following up on comment below as someone feeling someone stuck at rank 15 cap. and seems like everyone in this area running Kaleseth and so predictable. Watched Trumps video posted today on Miracle Rogue, know its an old deck didnt know of it. But it just dominates any people expecting typical THIS deck. Plus its like playing chess. people slow down, so wierd. Try Miracle Rogue variants catches people off guard !

      Reply
      • Rafael
        December 9, 2017 at 8:34 pm

        If you’re getting stuck at rank 15, it’s not the deck’s fault, but yours only.

        Reply
    • Nick
      December 3, 2017 at 12:00 pm

      I was able to get from rank 17 to 5 on a win streak, your not playing right if your losing. Don’t blame it on the deck it’s probably you.

      Reply
    • Nick
      December 3, 2017 at 12:00 pm

      I was able to get from rank 17 to 5 on a win streak, your not playing right if your losing. Don’t blame it on the deck it’s probably you.

      Reply
      • lol
        December 15, 2017 at 5:36 am

        rng as fk and gimmicky,
        I had an obscene win streak the first few hours went straight from 25 to 11, It requires so much extra to achieve what other decks could do with close to no thought. it just isn’t as strong. admit it.

        Reply
    • Nick
      December 3, 2017 at 12:00 pm

      I was able to get from rank 17 to 5 on a win streak, your not playing right if your losing. Don’t blame it on the deck it’s probably you.

      Reply
    • Nick
      December 3, 2017 at 12:00 pm

      I was able to get from rank 17 to 5 on a win streak, your not playing right if your losing. Don’t blame it on the deck it’s probably you.

      Reply
  28. kasc
    November 29, 2017 at 3:19 pm

    i made now about 20-30 games, always drop prince after 14-17 tour wtf……

    Reply
  29. Creedeth
    November 26, 2017 at 12:24 am

    Does anyone else think barnes is useless here?

    Reply
    • Creedeth
      November 26, 2017 at 1:57 am

      also super aggro deck says to play cobalt in description but its not in list

      Reply
  30. hero
    November 25, 2017 at 9:11 pm

    Meh. Nothing to see here. Just another glorified incarnation of an UngoroZoo deck

    ZZZZZzzzzZZZZzzzz

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  31. Henceforth
    November 19, 2017 at 12:34 pm

    Xaril, Poisoned Mind – As a primarily value-oriented minion.

    Create this card instead of Shaku, the Collector… think it was a bad idea.
    Now miss cairne bloodhoof too , and have Spiritsinger Umbra try it with delvisaur egg and xaril,
    win 7 streaks and the lost all lol. It was interesting.

    Now in rank 7, want to be this month rank5 or if it can be for the first time legendary, it will be great.

    Reply
    • Henceforth
      November 19, 2017 at 12:41 pm

      Forget to tell, get Golden Rogue only playing with the Tempo Rogue today from here (the first version), its is astonishing!.

      Reply
  32. Baiter
    November 18, 2017 at 4:42 pm

    Missing a lot of cards from the deck (captains, vilespines, shaku, edwin , leeroy). Still made it to rank 10, didnt reach it before =)). This deck is awesome.

    Reply
  33. Boy
    November 18, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    Missing a lot of cards from the deck (captains, vilespines, shaku, edwin , leeroy). Still made it to rank 10, didnt reach it before =)). This deck is awesome.

    Reply
  34. Alexander
    November 17, 2017 at 9:33 am

    hello im thinking about crafting this whole deck golden, but have one big question, is this deck viable for wild? seeing as that is what i enjoy playing more than standard, it would be nice to know if this deck is complete trash in wild, or alteast okay,

    Reply
    • SEBO23
      November 17, 2017 at 11:58 am

      It’s a tempo deck so it’s always viable (even in wild – you could win against most opponents), but the problem is that wild giants decks will crush you like a bug when you reach higher levels.

      Reply
      • Alexander
        November 17, 2017 at 12:53 pm

        by wild giants, what do you mean exactly ? like hunter giant deck?

        Reply
        • SEBO23
          November 18, 2017 at 2:33 pm

          Any class can play them. 🙂 Most deadly is Druid, but Warlock and Hunter is also a thing. Anyway, if you play just for fun it does’nt matter.

          Reply
          • alexander
            November 19, 2017 at 12:00 pm

            so i checked up on the “giants” naga stuff, do you figure the naga sea witch will ever be nerfed or will the top tier decks on “wild” ladder forever more be naga giants?

          • SEBO23
            November 22, 2017 at 10:42 am

            Nerf of pure wild card never happened before, but many people are very angry about that, so there is a chance. 🙂

  35. Envi
    November 17, 2017 at 5:29 am

    The problem I consistently find with this deck, is Keleseth not rolling. I hard mulligan and he doesnt show. Now, say he shows on round 6 and no shadowstep is in your hand, you know he is going to die as soon as he is played – is it best to play him immediately for the +1/+1 moving forwards, or wait for shadowstep to show up?

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    • ringo
      November 17, 2017 at 8:57 am

      Play him right away

      Reply
    • Doidao
      November 21, 2017 at 3:59 am

      Reaching the later stages of the game you’d better keep the shadowstep for more valuable cards than keleseth (i.e. vilespine, leeroy etc); +1/+1 is strong enough and buffing more won’t get you the win as the other cards would

      Reply
  36. judain
    November 16, 2017 at 9:26 pm

    Super Aggro, Highet top end & mid powerspike are the most significant variantiants, i already gonna try them all! thank so much! i been trap in 5 whit Asmodai version several days.

    I told ya how it going!

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  37. Dabe
    November 13, 2017 at 2:38 am

    How is this deck at the top?!! I used it for 2 months and it’s terrible. At very best it’s 50/50. Garbage.

    Reply
    • Diojr
      November 13, 2017 at 5:23 am

      This deck is NOT a “me go face” facehunter-replacement. If you play this deck on autopilot, you will lose most of your matches.

      To win, you need to optimize pretty much every turn you have and play specifically against the archetype you are facing. One mistake will make you lose the game. I’m playing this deck rank 10-5 atm (after having used it from 15-10), and it absolutely works. Avg. win percentage in Deck Tracker accross all players using this deck is 56% which is absolutely top tier.

      My personal win % atm. (50 matches pool) is 64% which is pretty outrageous.

      Best thing about this deck at the moment is that you don’t have to fear any particular class, as this deck has the potential to turn around even a slow start against a control deck.

      Keep at it, and i’m sure you’ll figure it out.

      Reply
      • Djor
        November 13, 2017 at 8:00 am

        Are you guys running Cairne, 2 Tar Keepers, or are you running 1 silence and 1 tar keeper??

        Reply
        • Term
          November 13, 2017 at 7:12 pm

          I run Cairne and 2 Vicious Fledglings over the Tar Creeper.

          Reply
      • Term
        November 13, 2017 at 7:10 pm

        I agree with everything that you said, except one.

        “Best thing about this deck at the moment is that you don’t have to fear any particular class, as this deck has the potential to turn around even a slow start against a control deck.”

        Highlander Priest is without a doubt my worst match-up…

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        • Lolingam
          November 18, 2017 at 4:44 am

          Yes, but you can win against it. You just need to pay more attention imo.

          Reply
    • Matthew Bryan Roberts
      November 17, 2017 at 4:57 pm

      I went 18-2 with this deck yesterday and have over a 70% WR this season. Is the deck garbage or are you?

      Reply
  38. Azire
    November 9, 2017 at 10:17 pm

    I don’t know what is happening. I have the cards, sitting at Rank 20 after testing other decks out for the beginning of the season. This deck is 0/10.

    Reply
    • Azire
      November 9, 2017 at 10:26 pm

      More info, in two of the games I managed to Shadowstep Prince Keleseth, one of which was on (my) Turn 1. This deck lost to everything from Priest to Mage, and even a Quest Warrior. Perhaps it does better at the upper tiers but simply can’t ladder itself?

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      • Pokettofan
        November 12, 2017 at 1:38 pm

        I went from rank 17 to rank 4 in just a few days, this deck is really strong against anything

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  39. SonOfZiz
    November 8, 2017 at 6:56 pm

    If I were to put together this deck, would i rather craft shaku or xaril? I have enough dust for the prince and for one of them, and i have the rest.

    Reply
    • Rabidewok714
      November 11, 2017 at 11:41 pm

      Def. Xaril. I crafted shaku first because he will last longer until going wild, but there’s not enough value with him, so I don’t even use him any more. Xaril synergizes well with combos, Barnes, and shadowcaster if you run with them.

      Reply
  40. erockhard
    November 8, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    I’m missing Edwin shaku and xaril which should I craft? Thinking edwin

    Reply
    • DAK
      November 10, 2017 at 12:30 pm

      Not edwin, he’s too situational. I think shaku or xaril is more value. I know it sucks cause Edwin is a classic card, but the other 2 have better odds on impacting the game

      Reply
      • Rabidewok714
        November 12, 2017 at 12:07 am

        While I agree that the other two have a better chance at impacting the game, I don’t think you should run this deck without edwin. He can single handedly win games, much like how keleseth can. With the right set up, Edwin can be insurmountable in the beginning if the opposing player doesn’t have a hard removal. Xaril can’t win a game on his own, and it is highly unlikely shaku will as well.

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      • Perry Manson
        November 16, 2017 at 4:26 pm

        i’ve tried different version of the deck, right now i’m running one without shaku and Xaril and in every version there is Edwin, is a really strong card, especially in tempo decks. An early Edwin can stabilize the board against aggro decks, a late Edwin can be GG, and is a card that generate a lot of tempo. Between Xaril and shaku i prefer shaku, but if i have to choose i go for Edwin.

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      • Mordeki
        November 19, 2017 at 11:43 pm

        Did you really suggest crafting Xaril over Edwin? Even a 6/6 Edwin can change the game early on. Xaril and Shaku are both good but I would absolutely craft Edwin over any Rogue legendary especially since the other two are rotating out in a few months.

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        • Spyder9899
          November 28, 2017 at 3:16 am

          Edwin is an All Star. Not in just this deck either. If you want to play Rogue, you need this card.

          Reply
    • erockhard
      November 22, 2017 at 3:17 pm

      Thanks everyone

      Reply
  41. Sebash
    November 4, 2017 at 11:41 am

    Great deck, replacing Xaril with Shadowcaster is actually really good idea, double vilespine slayer or bonemare, or everything you need. 10/10

    Reply
  42. Henceforth
    October 31, 2017 at 10:09 pm

    I get to the first time to rank 3. But what is better i beat a LEGENDARY :O
    Think the leadder search for lower ranking rivals when don’t find your rank, why match me with
    players in rank 2,1 o legendary above me lol.

    I beat legendarys for dinner but i am not a legendary looool.

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  43. maughli
    October 30, 2017 at 2:51 am

    Hi guys,
    against which decks is there a solid win rate even without prince Keleseth?
    I am thinking about not to hard mulligan for prince in such cases, but just going for a good hand. What do you think?

    Reply
    • TheFiftGuy
      October 31, 2017 at 11:25 am

      Well for the mulligan in general I tend to keep the 3/3 pirate, edwin (if my hand supports it) and backstab (vs decks with early minions) + what he says you should. since these cards have the higher winrates in the mulligan.

      Reply
  44. Sulfur
    October 29, 2017 at 8:59 am

    Thanks @Chimborazo for the great deck, article and reasoning behind it. Since I can not put much time into the game, I was looking for a deck that is quick to play on on one hand – and for which I have the most important cards on the other hand for quite some time now, and this list carried me from 20 to Legend rank within 4 days.
    I do not own Shaku nor Xaril and was not very impressed with the Spellbreaker, so went with 2 Vicious Fledglings instead of the Legeneries. Regarding the Spellbreaker spot I toyed around for some time and finally setled on Mind Cotrol Tech, which is a great way to give me a shot at games that usually I can not win. He has been quite good in situations where my Druid opponent hided behind a wall of Spreading Plague or against decks that are very fast (Warlock Zoo, Token Druid, Hunter).

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    • Henceforth
      October 29, 2017 at 11:32 am

      I am stuck in rank 8, trying other varians went back to rank 10 XD. I only miss Shaku.

      Do you think Spiritsinger Umbra is a good legendary to try for Deathrattle Synergys with this deck?.
      Is good with Xaril.

      Thinking to try that way, like change Vilespine Slayer for Moat Luker, then you kill your own Xaril for example and with Umbra you get it back lol.

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      • Sulfur
        October 29, 2017 at 2:37 pm

        In my opinion, that is not a good idea. Especially cutting a Vilespine Slayer would not be exactly an advantage. This deck is an agrressive tempo deck; putting any non aggressive cards in it will weaken the deck.

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        • Henceforth
          October 29, 2017 at 4:10 pm

          Oh i will try your deck, some tips how to play it better?

          Reply
          • Sulfur
            October 30, 2017 at 10:59 am

            There is nothing really important I could add to the tips already mentioned in the article. Just practice and get used to the deck. Be patient if you hit a losing streak (happens from time to time, thats just statistical variance), the deck has an above 50% winning chance if played correctly and in the long run, you will succeed.
            Also, I always keep Fire Fly if I have it in my opening hand and if going second, I also keep Southsea Captain (because it will bring a 2/2 Patches even if you did not have Keleseth).

        • Henceforth
          October 30, 2017 at 12:12 pm

          Thanks for the tips. Yes i do that too, three days ago, use firefly in turn one and Southsea Captain in turn 2 or 3.

          Yesterday, was loosing a lot, today a win a lot when from 10 to 5 O_O
          And no Prince draw lol

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  45. JAuggie
    October 27, 2017 at 6:32 am

    Would anyone be willing to watch some of my games with this deck and help fix my errors. Jauggie#1507

    Reply
    • Unnamed
      October 27, 2017 at 9:20 am

      You could just try another list. I used this one to get to the 5th rank:

      http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/c0ntrolboys-6-legend-elemental-tempo-rogue-october-2017/

      Reply
    • Madeinsweden
      November 1, 2017 at 10:34 am

      If you’d like another’s point of view on your games I’d be more than happy to give you mine. I play mostly Rogue, shaman and Mage on the more aggressive side so I’d be more than happy to share the experience 🙂 Will add you after I finish up on my work. Can’t remember the battletag number but I do believe my battletag is Madeinsweden#21365. I´ll send you a friend request after work 🙂

      Reply
    • ToxinSkorpio
      November 9, 2017 at 1:14 pm

      Hey I hit Rank 2 last season with a somewhat similar decklist, I’d be willing to try to help you with your gameplay a bit if you’d still like, add me – ToxinSkorpio #1515

      Reply
  46. Rotesfeuer
    October 22, 2017 at 9:15 am

    Im testing Prince Valanar right now instead of spellbreaker and xaril. I think hes more decent then Xaril but I cant think of a suitable 2. card. Right now im testing Argent Squire, anything else that could fit in?

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  47. Kiilon
    October 19, 2017 at 12:41 pm

    Any replacements for Edwin ?

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  48. ImWithStupid
    October 19, 2017 at 11:43 am

    I strongly suggest Mimic Pod as a substitute for any cards you might be missing from this deck (except Keleseth). I toyed around with some replacements for Leeroy and Shaku, and I’ve been having some great success with 2 copies of the card as it both helps to dig a little bit for Keleseth and creates more opportunities for high rolls (there are a lot of good targets for duplication).

    Reply
    • Chimborazo
      October 19, 2017 at 1:12 pm

      The deck is aggressive, based on gaining tempo by curving out with minions, Mimic Pod is a dead draw in the first 5-7 turns of the game. Not that things such as Leeroy aren’t, but you’d want to minimize those as much as possible. Might be worth considering but I probably wouldn’t try it.

      Reply
  49. Marc V
    October 17, 2017 at 8:37 pm

    I think that I’ll see a bit more success with this deck after cutting Prince Keleseth. Now hear me out, Prince Keleseth is essentially a dead card for me due to the fact that I haven’t drawn it once in 9 games. In its place, I think I’ll be running a more useful 2 drop, like Bloodfen Raptor or maybe a Bluegill Warrior.

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  50. Deaazh
    October 17, 2017 at 4:54 am

    Is the corpsetaker version of this deck better? atm I play this one but I really want to figure out which one is better

    Reply
    • Chimborazo
      October 17, 2017 at 7:29 am

      The only version that can be considered “better” is the one with elementals, which performs better in the mirror match but worse versus Priest. Depending on which one you see more, you should adapt. The “corpsetaker version” is experimental and does not have enough different matchups to justify considering it a separate deck. Just stick to this one and you will hit Legend in no time.

      Reply
  51. Natasha
    October 15, 2017 at 4:19 pm

    Hey guys! Tell me plz, are Edwin, Leeroy and Shaku worth crafting or not? I want to try this deck, but these three guys are missing.

    Reply
    • Sacro
      October 16, 2017 at 8:49 pm

      yeah totally! Maybe shaku or leeroy not but if you have a lot dust go ahead! 🙂

      Reply
      • Natasha
        December 10, 2017 at 12:51 pm

        Thank you!

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    • Deaazh
      October 17, 2017 at 4:57 am

      I play this deck with only Edwin, Keleseth and Patches atm and still managed to get rank 5 with a good winrate. For a period I even played it with double eviscerate ’cause I missed Keleseth, and still got r9 with it. I have a personal list tho

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  52. Skeptical
    October 13, 2017 at 10:36 pm

    If you don’t get Prince K in the mulligan or early game then you will lose 70-100% of the time in my experience. If you get him during your mulligan or first few turns you will win close to 100% of the time if you play your cards right.

    Reply
    • Chimborazo
      October 14, 2017 at 9:44 am

      That’s not even close to the truth. The deck is strong even without Keleseth.

      Reply
      • Skeptical
        October 14, 2017 at 4:31 pm

        I disagree. This deck has capped out at Rank 14 for me, whereas I switched to my Taunt/Control Warrior and proceeded to Rank 4. When I was playing it, i would quickly lose the board if have a poor mulligan and could never recover. I have never lost to this deck or its variants with my Control Warrior (have came across 3 so far). I am not saying this deck isn’t fun/good, but not as glamorous as advertised and easy to defeat if your opponent understands it. Could I have gotten higher than 14? Sure, if RNG was in my favor.

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        • Gabriel
          October 14, 2017 at 6:00 pm

          Most likely you just do not know how to play it. There is of course the chance that you may just be the unluckiest person in the world.

          I regularly win having never drawn Keleseth, and for w/e reason Patches hates me and always seems to find his way into my opening hand. The fact that I have a near 100% winrate against the mirror leads me to the conclusion that most people playing it do not play it well. This is not some SMOrc deck and is less forgiving to mistakes than other decks. It actually takes some learning. If you are already proficient with Rogue it is easy to play but if not then you have to learn the class. Even a simple mechanic like when to swing with your face can change the outcome of games. Have you ever played a Rogue that was off lethal by 1 hp? I have seen this many times, and most of the time you can look back at the game and track it to a single turn when they should have swung but didn’t.

          I am not a pro and there are probably thousands of players better at this game then I am but if someone is struggling with this deck I’d be willing to help you out maybe spectate you and help you with plays. I hit legend last season with this deck with a 75% winrate and this month I’m at 67%. Gabriel#11451

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          • Skeptical
            October 14, 2017 at 8:51 pm

            It’s very easy to say, “Oh you must not know how to play this deck”, to some minor criticism lol. Me and you can play the exact same way and you have a supposed “75%” win rate and be Legend and myself have a sub 50% win rate and barely crack 10 with the deck. Variance with your opponents and RNG is something you can’t control despite how “pro” you claim.

          • Gabriel
            October 14, 2017 at 9:37 pm

            You imply that both of us play the deck the same so the variance between you and I comes down to RNG. This is not the case. I put in effort to learn the game, learn this deck, I do this with all my hobbies whether it be racquetball, cooking, or hearthstone. Your first mistake is that you assume you are so good that if you can’t scratch R10 with it then it must be the deck that’s bad, or you are getting unlucky with it. I say this not to insult. If you make those kinds of assumptions you fall into a trap of being unable to improve. As the blue chick in Avatar said, “You cannot fill a cup that is already full”.

          • Skeptical
            October 17, 2017 at 12:37 pm

            So my win rate has improved with more practice. However, I am still sporting a 30% win rate against Priest. What is your strategy on facing Highlander Priest.

          • JAuggie
            October 26, 2017 at 7:11 am

            Can I take you up on your offer to help teach this deck. I’m a new player playing this deck and I can only only get to rank 11.

        • Chimborazo
          October 15, 2017 at 9:10 am

          Is that why it’s currently the deck with the highest win rate on every platform that tracks stats? Or the major talking point of HCT, said to be the best deck in the meta right now by every pro player?

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      • Rookie
        October 16, 2017 at 6:38 am

        Very true. I have won most of my games on my climb to legend with this deck without ever getting a keleseth. this deck is just good. even without him you still overrun your opp. I have won the mirror when my opp has the nut keleseth opening and i didnt have the former. This matchup is all about skill. You probably just don’t play the deck correctly.

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        • Skeptical
          October 17, 2017 at 12:54 pm

          Pretty sure reaching legend with Warrior, Mage, and Lock in the past I know pretty well the mechanics of the game. But thanks for your input… “Rookie”

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    • Danteh
      October 15, 2017 at 11:37 am

      @Skeptical I’m sorry man, but you must be pretty terrible with the deck. Nothing wrong with being a newbie – it just takes to to master a deck like this 😉

      I pretty much never pull Keleseth (it’s basically autowin if I do) and I still win most of the time. It’s a really, really, good deck. I can’t dedicate as much time as I could before due to work but I’m already rank 3 with around 12 hours played this month or so.

      And yes, it is pretty difficult to play “efficiently”. Actually, I think that’s exactly the problem with your playing, you seem to think it’s easy and thus can’t see what the true “good plays” are, effectively making subpar plays (because of no experience with the deck) and losing all the time. Basically, it’s the proof that it’s easy to learn and hard to master.

      Reply
      • Skeptical
        October 17, 2017 at 12:52 pm

        Saw your first sentence and stopped reading. Yawn

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        • Daniel
          October 17, 2017 at 3:00 pm

          You should, if you want to imprive your game 🙂

          Reply
  53. Just a Spell
    October 13, 2017 at 9:05 am

    I believe it is important to explain when to run 2x Bittertide Hydra and when to run 2x Cobalt Scalebane. Although Colbalt and Hydra serve the same purpuse versus priest (punishing only 1 death and being immune to dragon fire), Cobalt is better versus zoo, token shaman and the mirror (it makes vilespine a lot less effective). HOWEVER, Hydra is 10x better than Cobalt versus Jade Druid who has multiple ways to remove a 5/5 but not an 8/8.
    In conclusion, if you are facing mostly control at any point (priest, druid, mage) with this deck swap out both Cobalts for Hydras, it will be incredibly beneficial.

    Reply
    • Chimborazo
      October 13, 2017 at 1:29 pm

      Thanks for the input, I’ll make sure to update the guide to address the alternative options.

      Reply
  54. chris
    October 13, 2017 at 1:04 am

    so hi i need to replace patches shaku the collector and xaril .. also got no vilespine and sawsea captain

    Reply
    • Chimborazo
      October 13, 2017 at 1:08 am

      Shaku and Xaril are cool but not “core” to the deck. Captain is, though if you cut Patches there is not a very big reason to play the Captains, but keeping in mind you will be taking a huge power level downgrade. If you want to play Rogue ever, just craft the Vilespines. Best investment in the class you could possibly make.

      Reply
    • Gabriel
      October 14, 2017 at 3:55 am

      IMHO w/o Patches, the Southsea Captains, and the Vilespine Slayers, you might as well play a different deck. Even if you craft the Vilespine Slayers, your still going to take a huge loss in power, as Chimborazo already mentioned, if you don’t run the Captains and Patches.

      When you do get the cards together, expect to spend time learning to pilot it. All decks have a degree of difficulty to them but I’d have to say tempo rogue looks easier to play than it actually is. It is not a forgiving deck.
      It is so fun to play once you get the hang of it though.

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  55. Daniel
    October 11, 2017 at 10:03 am

    This statement is not true, priest has way more removals than just Shadow Word Death ..

    “You can save up some cheap cards to combo and make a big Edwin VanCleef to bait their Shadow Word: Death, which is their only removal for Scalebane.”

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    • Gabriel
      October 14, 2017 at 4:02 am

      “…removal for Scalebane” is the key here. You are referring to removal in general. Without SWD in hand, the Priest has a very hard time removing Cobalt Scalebane. That was the point the author was making.

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  56. rookie
    October 10, 2017 at 6:35 am

    amazing deck! i made several changes. I run 2 Flappy Bird. 1 Plague scientist and 1 Naga. I went from rank 21 to rank 8. I’m currently 32-5 with the deck. fantastic!

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  57. Sinister
    October 10, 2017 at 2:23 am

    I’m having a lot of succes with this deck, beating most other top tier decks, but my sole weakness is hunter decks. For some reason I can’t seem to get that match-up right. They chew up my pirates with their stupid crabs, I often lack removal for the ever-growing Hyena and their beasts are so sticky that it is hard to avoid the synergies with Crackling Razormaw and Houndmaster. What is the best way to play against hybrid beast hunter with this deck? The chart says that this deck has a positive match-up but I certainly don’t so far. 😉

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  58. johnhso
    October 9, 2017 at 5:17 am

    this deck is amazing, made 1 change –> -1 xaril +1 shadowcaster currently 11-2 from 16-13

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  59. Tom
    October 8, 2017 at 12:10 pm

    Great deck, I got to rank 7!

    Reply
  60. eZentrik
    October 7, 2017 at 11:33 pm

    I know this deck is a great deck but for some reason I’ve got a 33% w/l. I’m clearly playing it wrong but i just can’t figure out what i’m doing wrong :'(

    Reply
    • Kersed
      October 8, 2017 at 7:59 pm

      Totally that’s why every single pro is taking a form of this deck to the championship. You clearly have done your research lolololol

      Reply
    • eZentrik
      October 10, 2017 at 11:35 am

      I don’t agree with you, After playing really poorly with it for a day, I’ve managed to get it back to a 55% win/loss. I climbed from 15 to 9 in a day and i’m still progressing. Just took some time for me to learn it properly.

      Reply
    • musho
      October 12, 2017 at 11:44 am

      I won’t lie this deck is hard to get used to and when i first started using it i barely one but once i made a few personal changes i’m back up to 11 and almost every pro right now has this deck

      Reply
    • Gabriel
      October 14, 2017 at 4:27 am

      This deck is far from garbage. “Losses most games turn 3/4… no answer to a full board”, really? Who are you playing against that can get a full board by T3/4? There are 2x Backstabs, 2x SI:7, 4 pirates that will pull a 1/1 Parches and 2 that will pull a 2/2 Patches to help trade. If you are losing I would suggest you reread this guide, or watch some streamers play it. As a few people have said, it took them a while to learn how to play it.

      Reply
  61. Yovan
    October 7, 2017 at 4:47 am

    Cheap and strong deck, its recomended for those who has limited dusts.

    Reply
    • Ivan
      October 8, 2017 at 2:37 pm

      CHEAP!? it has 5 legendaries men…

      Reply
      • True
        October 10, 2017 at 6:37 am

        Several of them can be replaced. You need keleseth and patches and perferably edwin. but the rest are replaceable.

        Reply
        • True
          October 10, 2017 at 6:38 am

          so you really just need patches keleseth and Leeroy.

          Reply
        • Satauntaun
          October 11, 2017 at 3:17 pm

          I’m currently trying to put the deck together, but don’t have enough for both Edwin and two Vilespine Slayers. Given that the Vilespines seem really important should I sub out the Edwin instead? If so with what?

          Reply
          • Satauntaun
            October 11, 2017 at 3:28 pm

            Also since I never bought Karazan and I don’t really want to at this point with it being relatively close to leaving standard, anyone have an idea on what to replace Swashburglar with? I was thinking Bloodsail Corsair but if anyone has any better ideas lmk.

          • Gabriel
            October 14, 2017 at 4:14 am

            You could try a Shadowcaster instead of the Van Cleef. As for the Swashburglars…. didn’t blizzard change adventure mode or something allowing cards to be crafted normally?

  62. eatenbyapuma
    October 5, 2017 at 7:34 pm

    Great deck. Personally I play it with elemental synergies, replacing the cobalt scalebanes with blazecallers, no xaril cuz I don’t have him so I throw in another tar creeper, and in light of skulking geist I replace cold blood with fire plume Phoenix. But that’s just me, and the deck in its form here is awesome. The one thing I would say is not to advise spreading out against druids- even with the spreading plague nerf, I’m still coming across it in most jade decks I play

    Reply
    • Adam
      October 8, 2017 at 2:46 pm

      I did the some of your changes and it helped alot.

      Reply
  63. greencoaster
    October 5, 2017 at 2:33 pm

    i just want to say thanks to the guys, who put such a great work making these articles, i think you guys are awesome!

    Reply
  64. Ayylmaokind
    October 5, 2017 at 8:45 am

    Any good replacement for Leeroy?

    Reply
  65. Tsokanos
    October 4, 2017 at 3:54 am

    am i the only seeing the pic behind the rogue class cards? xD
    great deck btw 😛

    Reply
  66. xxlgorillanor
    October 3, 2017 at 3:27 pm

    I like this deck very much, i am sure this is gonna be my main deck this seasson.

    Try it out guys, it is fun to play. i have a 80% win rate so far.

    Reply
  67. agramar
    October 3, 2017 at 5:49 am

    Great deck, is it bad I changed 1 bonemare for a Geist?

    https://imgur.com/a/AwVBC

    So far this guy saved my ass many times from the pint sized board clear when my dragons are on the table and he cant potion my ass off

    Reply
    • Chimborazo
      October 4, 2017 at 12:53 am

      That’s very interesting! Geist definitely hurts Priests a lot, but I’m worried that in the ideal scenario, Scalebane comes down on the board a whole two turns before Geist ever could. Have you run into situations where you have to hold back your dragon and lose the pressure it provides?

      Reply
  68. Light
    October 2, 2017 at 11:53 am

    Nice guide. Looks interesting.

    Is it worth 6400 of my dust though?

    Reply
    • Chimborazo
      October 2, 2017 at 1:45 pm

      It’s the second best deck for ladder and much faster than the actual best, so if you want to reach Legend in the least amount of time with the highest win rate than yes, it is worth it.

      On the other hand, if you are missing that many cards and are not really a Rogue player at heart, there are plenty of alternatives so that you don’t have to craft into the deck specifically. Just make sure you can beat it.

      Reply
  69. gamerjigs
    October 1, 2017 at 9:26 am

    Which to craft first? Xaril or Shaku?

    Reply
    • Chimborazo
      October 1, 2017 at 9:36 am

      Shaku is slightly better in this deck.

      Reply
  70. sadsad
    September 30, 2017 at 7:59 pm

    nice deck but i have no freakin edwin and Keleseth

    Reply
  71. gnech91
    September 30, 2017 at 11:32 am

    i have all’cards to make this deck less patches… i know it’s important and he takes great value to keleset… but there is a way to replace him?

    Reply
  72. Minititan
    September 29, 2017 at 11:00 pm

    Hey i dont have Edwin what do you recommend?

    Reply
  73. Kersed
    September 29, 2017 at 8:53 pm

    Is this a better list than Asmos or Kranichs? I know they are minor differences but I’m just too curious for my own good.

    Reply
    • Chimborazo
      September 30, 2017 at 2:13 am

      It’s the best of both worlds. This listwas derived by 2 days of playtesting with HCT pros and a lot of statistical analysis. We identified the “core” and then looked at #1 legend finishes, primarily focusing on the chinese server. Then we eliminated the absolute lowest win percentage cards and used those 5 flex slots to improve the two worst matchups.

      In theory this should be the best and “optimal” list but who knows.

      Reply
      • Kersed
        September 30, 2017 at 10:07 am

        That is impressive thanks!!!!

        Reply
      • Judain
        September 30, 2017 at 10:08 am

        i complety agree! this version is so good, more refined.

        Reply

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