Hey all, wanted to concur that this deck is just pretty damn awesome. I pushed from rank 15 to 10 last night using it and it didn’t show signs of slowing down just had to sleep.
I also used a variant though, with -2 Lotus agents and without Bloodmage who I don’t have, and instead with +2 Servants of Kalimos and +1 Mana Totem.
One particularly good part is that the discover cards seem to constantly be pulling epic cards that are Shaman+taunt+elemental which jive perfectly with the deck. Like the Stonehill Defender often doesn’t give you just random neutral taunts, but specifically shaman – in one game I discovered Al’Akir, a Stone Sentinel, a 2nd Kalimos, and White Eyes @_@ absolutely insane. And turned out to allow me to outlast an extremely long game with quest Priest.
Also on the Primalfin Totems – didn’t consider them viable outside of a murloc deck at first, but yep they are also great. They serve as a soft taunt just like mana totem, because enemy will always want to clear it, and if you manage to get it behind a taunt it’s just endless extra 1/1s.
Starting turn 6/7 if your battlecry elementals line up right, you can battlecry 3 damage, 3 damage, 5 damage, 5 damage, then 6 damage with Kalimos (with ideal card draw – but I’ve had this almost occur several times, missing just one or two). It must feel unstoppable to the other player. The version with +2 fire plume phoenixes, I can see that also being awesome with even more battlecries.
Funny that you mentioned not having Bloodmage in there – I have him, but honestly, I haven’t really found him to be that useful. I’ve played a ton of games with the deck now, and I’ve almost never used him to buff the AOE removal, nor does this deck really need the draw. My hand is rarely empty except against Quest Warrior, and that matchup seems awful/draw dependent anyways.
I’m considering swapping Bloodmage out for a Golakka, maybe? Its another cheap 2 drop with a way better body, and Quest Rogue is all over and almost always gives you a tasty target.
This deck is very solid. I climbed to rank 5 with a variant of it in a single day. It matches up very well against a lot of the meta right now. It beats Quest Rogue, Beast Hunter, and Pirate Warrior handily, and can deal with most else.
I found Aya and the Lotus Agents to be way too slow, personally. I wanted all things with immediate board impact. Aya was removed for an Argent Squire to have a little better shot at getting a sticky 1 drop (that also synergizes well with Flametongue). The Agents were removed and replaced with Fire Plume Phoenix – elemental activators, cheaper mana cost, and does an immediately board impacting 2 damage. I’ve even used them to hit face to finish games. This means that literally all of your elementals at 4+ mana do battlecry attacks. For me personally, hitting the board immediately had way more impact than discovering a card or summoning a jade golem, as those actions are just too slow right now.
If you don’t have Kalimos, I’d sub in another bloodlust. I’ve won a majority of my games without ever dropping Kalimos. The meta is very fast right now and a lot of my games are ending by around turn 8. Most popular decks right now are not running board clears (outside of Taunt Warrior with Brawl) so it’s very easy to get wide with this deck, which is perfect for bloodlust.
Hope this little writeup helps anyone who is playing this deck!
I’m afraid Kalimos is a core element (no pun intended) to this deck.. Maybe servant of Kalimos so you at least have the chance to discover him, but his board clear and burst heal are far too important to skip.
Kalimos cannot really be substituted, I agree. But if you don’t have him, I think another Bloodlust should suffice.
There have been plenty of games that I never draw or use Kalimos, and win simply through building a wide board, as most common decks right now cannot AOE clear you. Drawing another Bloodlust in these cases would be huge.
Does anyone understand why Stonehill Defender is chosen over Hot Spring Guardian? I’d say the Guardian has a larger direct impact and also helps with the elemental synergy.
Honestly, either works with the rest of the deck, but as mentioned a few times here in the comments, the discovered minions you get from the Stonehill Defenders can turn the game. What’s really nice about these guys is that because they have discover, you can tailor your choice of minion to the opponent you’re facing.
I’m noticing some decks are cutting Tol’vir even though he’s giving you 3/5 body and divine shield. I’m guessing he’s too slow and defensive for turn 4 maybe?
Lotus agent are tech cards. So we are looking at things that either win the game fast or defend our board or hero. 100% sure almost all these are spells. Like the raven idol, but much worse as you get a 5-3 for 5 body which is bad
I wouldn’t call it much worse, it usually gives much more flexible options than Raven Idol. The 5/3 body actually also does wonders against quest Rogue.
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Vs this hunter I opened with coin+Primal Fin then Primal Fin on 2.
Guess what he had – hyena and unleash.
WOW that’s my luck haha.
i switched thalnos for a second bloodlust. it works fine for me.
Hey all, wanted to concur that this deck is just pretty damn awesome. I pushed from rank 15 to 10 last night using it and it didn’t show signs of slowing down just had to sleep.
I also used a variant though, with -2 Lotus agents and without Bloodmage who I don’t have, and instead with +2 Servants of Kalimos and +1 Mana Totem.
One particularly good part is that the discover cards seem to constantly be pulling epic cards that are Shaman+taunt+elemental which jive perfectly with the deck. Like the Stonehill Defender often doesn’t give you just random neutral taunts, but specifically shaman – in one game I discovered Al’Akir, a Stone Sentinel, a 2nd Kalimos, and White Eyes @_@ absolutely insane. And turned out to allow me to outlast an extremely long game with quest Priest.
Also on the Primalfin Totems – didn’t consider them viable outside of a murloc deck at first, but yep they are also great. They serve as a soft taunt just like mana totem, because enemy will always want to clear it, and if you manage to get it behind a taunt it’s just endless extra 1/1s.
Starting turn 6/7 if your battlecry elementals line up right, you can battlecry 3 damage, 3 damage, 5 damage, 5 damage, then 6 damage with Kalimos (with ideal card draw – but I’ve had this almost occur several times, missing just one or two). It must feel unstoppable to the other player. The version with +2 fire plume phoenixes, I can see that also being awesome with even more battlecries.
Happy hunting!
Funny that you mentioned not having Bloodmage in there – I have him, but honestly, I haven’t really found him to be that useful. I’ve played a ton of games with the deck now, and I’ve almost never used him to buff the AOE removal, nor does this deck really need the draw. My hand is rarely empty except against Quest Warrior, and that matchup seems awful/draw dependent anyways.
I’m considering swapping Bloodmage out for a Golakka, maybe? Its another cheap 2 drop with a way better body, and Quest Rogue is all over and almost always gives you a tasty target.
This deck is very solid. I climbed to rank 5 with a variant of it in a single day. It matches up very well against a lot of the meta right now. It beats Quest Rogue, Beast Hunter, and Pirate Warrior handily, and can deal with most else.
I found Aya and the Lotus Agents to be way too slow, personally. I wanted all things with immediate board impact. Aya was removed for an Argent Squire to have a little better shot at getting a sticky 1 drop (that also synergizes well with Flametongue). The Agents were removed and replaced with Fire Plume Phoenix – elemental activators, cheaper mana cost, and does an immediately board impacting 2 damage. I’ve even used them to hit face to finish games. This means that literally all of your elementals at 4+ mana do battlecry attacks. For me personally, hitting the board immediately had way more impact than discovering a card or summoning a jade golem, as those actions are just too slow right now.
If you don’t have Kalimos, I’d sub in another bloodlust. I’ve won a majority of my games without ever dropping Kalimos. The meta is very fast right now and a lot of my games are ending by around turn 8. Most popular decks right now are not running board clears (outside of Taunt Warrior with Brawl) so it’s very easy to get wide with this deck, which is perfect for bloodlust.
Hope this little writeup helps anyone who is playing this deck!
pretty nice deck. stonehill defender is just better than hot spring guardian, almost same body but draw a card (shaman got only good taunt minions.
If you don’t have Kalimos, Primal Lord, what would be a good replacement for it?
I’m afraid Kalimos is a core element (no pun intended) to this deck.. Maybe servant of Kalimos so you at least have the chance to discover him, but his board clear and burst heal are far too important to skip.
Kalimos cannot really be substituted, I agree. But if you don’t have him, I think another Bloodlust should suffice.
There have been plenty of games that I never draw or use Kalimos, and win simply through building a wide board, as most common decks right now cannot AOE clear you. Drawing another Bloodlust in these cases would be huge.
Does anyone understand why Stonehill Defender is chosen over Hot Spring Guardian? I’d say the Guardian has a larger direct impact and also helps with the elemental synergy.
Honestly, either works with the rest of the deck, but as mentioned a few times here in the comments, the discovered minions you get from the Stonehill Defenders can turn the game. What’s really nice about these guys is that because they have discover, you can tailor your choice of minion to the opponent you’re facing.
Why do you not run servant of kalimos?
I’m noticing some decks are cutting Tol’vir even though he’s giving you 3/5 body and divine shield. I’m guessing he’s too slow and defensive for turn 4 maybe?
because he requires elemental and he isnt elemental
Why are there 2 Primalfin Totems in this list? This should be Mana Tide Totem, right?
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its right
Nope. Primalfin gives you awesome synergy with Flametongue and Bloodlust. It can get seriously out of control if your opponent can’t kill it quickly.
which cards are we waiting from lotus agents ?
Lotus agent are tech cards. So we are looking at things that either win the game fast or defend our board or hero. 100% sure almost all these are spells. Like the raven idol, but much worse as you get a 5-3 for 5 body which is bad
I wouldn’t call it much worse, it usually gives much more flexible options than Raven Idol. The 5/3 body actually also does wonders against quest Rogue.